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P2500 AND P1668

ALTERNATOR LIGHTS ALWAYS ON AT STARTING ENGINE

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There might be overcharging or less charging done to your battery ........leads to defective in diode

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P2500 starts but won't stay running


P2500 Generator Lamp/L-Terminal Circ Low

Indicator

This code indicates that a fault has been detected in the generator lamp control circuit. The PCM may have also detected an abnormal voltage reading from the vehicle battery, starting, or charging system.

Code Set Parameters

In the event of generator lamp control circuit fault, a trouble code will be stored and a service engine soon lamp will be illuminated. Some models require multiple drive cycles (as many as 8) with a failure in order for the service engine soon lamp to be illuminated and others will activate it on the initial failure.

Symptoms

This code indicates that a fault has been detected in the charging system circuit. The PCM may have also detected an abnormal voltage reading from the vehicle battery, starting, or charging system.

Common Causes

The most common cause of this code can be traced to a faulty alternator. Other causes could include a bad battery or starter, open or shorted wiring or battery cables, insufficient battery primary or secondary grounds, defective voltage regulator, corroded battery terminal ends, a faulty PCM (rare), a large battery drain, or a defective battery.

Common Misdiagnosis

Technicians report that batteries and starters are often replaced in error when the alternator is either not charging or overcharging. If the battery is discharged, charge it and test the vehicle charging system to make sure that it is operating properly.

Diagnosis

  • The starting/charging system is monitored by the PCM whenever the key is placed in the "ON" position, as is the generator lamp circuit for the instrument panel
  • When the engine is running, the PCM is programmed to anticipate between 13.8 and 14.4 volts from the charging system
  • If a voltage reading that either exceeds or underachieves, a code will be stored and a service engine soon lamp illuminated
  • Some vehicle models (especially Chrysler) also use the PCM to regulate charging system voltage
  • System voltage malfunctions related to the PCM are much more common in vehicles equipped with this type of system than in other systems. Before beginning your diagnosis, make sure that the battery is fully charged
  • If the battery fails to take or hold a charge, it should be replaced. Several tools will be instrumental in successfully diagnosing this code
  • A suitable OBD-II scanner (or code reader) and a digital volt/ohmmeter will be most helpful in performing a successful diagnosis
  • Begin with a visual inspection of all wiring and connectors
  • Repair or replace damaged, disconnected, shorted, or corroded wiring, connectors, and components as necessary
  • Always retest the system after repairs are completed to ensure success. If all system wiring, connectors, and components (Including fuses) appear to be in normal working order, connect the scanner (or code reader) to the diagnostic connector and record all stored codes and freeze frame data
  • This information can be extremely helpful in diagnosing intermittent conditions that may have contributed to this code being stored
  • Continue by clearing the code and operating the vehicle to see if it returns
  • This will help to determine whether or not the malfunction is intermittent
  • After the codes are cleared, test drive the vehicle to see if the code returns
  • If the code fails to immediately return, you may have an intermittent condition
  • Intermittent conditions can prove to be quite a challenge to diagnose and in extreme cases may have to be allowed to worsen before a correct diagnosis can be made
  • Continue with a visual inspection of the battery and battery cables
  • Should you find excessive corrosion on the battery terminals, suspect a poor battery connection
  • If this is the case, disconnect the battery cables from the battery (always disconnect the ground cable first and see manufacturer's recommendations for disconnecting/reconnecting the battery) and remove the corrosion from the battery posts and terminals
  • Reconnect the battery and retest the charging system
  • Connect the starting/charging system tester to the battery and perform a load test
  • If the battery fails the load test, replace it
  • If the battery passes the load test, leave the tester connected and start the engine
  • Observe the voltage readings on the tester and compare your findings with manufacturer's specifications
  • Replace starting/charging system components as required
  • Typical alternator output should read approximately 14 volts with the engine started and no accessories or lighting turned on
  • Leave the tester connected and use the amp probe to test the starter current draw
  • Compare your findings to manufacturer's specs and repair or replace starting system cables or other components as needed. The generator lamp circuit is used to activate a charging system indicator in the instrument panel if system voltage is abnormal
  • Voltage readings that are too low may indicate worn brushes in the alternator
  • High voltage readings may be indicative of a defective voltage regulator (usually integrated in the alternator but some are part of the PCM)
  • Before performing any continuity and resistance testing on the generator lamp circuit, be sure to disconnect the wiring from the instrument panel to prevent damage to system controllers and circuit boards
  • Consult the vehicle service manual for reference voltage readings and other precautions. If the starting/charging system are in proper working order, you will need to test secondary wiring
  • Disconnect the alternator connector and test all circuits using the digital volt/ohmmeter
  • If alternator wiring values are in line with acceptable specifications, disconnect the PCM connector and perform a continuity test on all system circuits
  • Compare actual findings with manufacturer's specifications and repair open or shorted electrical wiring as necessary. If the malfunction has still not been rectified, suspect a defective PCM.

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Relaced altanator / battery and battery cables but still wont charge


If you have replaced the alternator and battery there is not much left to check. Check that the light guage wire is connected to the alternator. Not the heavy guage wire that goes to the battery. There is always another lighter guage wire that is plugged somewhere on the back of the alternator which allows the alternator to start making power and is connected to the red light on the dash. If this is connected, then I would suspect that you have a wiring fault somewhere that is not supplying power to this wire when you start the engine. Next stop would be an auto electrician to look for wiring faults.

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Replaced the battery and alternator, battery still dies


ok so your acid level in the battery needs to be checked if its at the right level get another battery because there are dead cells in it. if the alternators good check it to be sure even new parts can be bad. ok same problems with a good alternator bad battery. Hope this helps

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P2500 code


you need put a new alternator.

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Engine code P1670


DTC P1668 and P1670 indicates that a communication error has occurred between the PCM and the IDM.

Possible causes:

-- Open fuse

-- IDM relay

-- Open or shorted IDM enable circuit

-- Open/short in EF circuit

-- Open/short in FDCS circuit

-- IDM powering circuits

-- PCM

l Check for other codes.

l Key on, engine off.

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Help! Alternator warning light is on? I would like to seek some helpful advise with regards to the Alternator warning light when the ignition is initially switched on and go out when the engine is...


I can't say 100%, but as far as I know, there are a number of lights that come on when starting a car. The alternator light is one of them. Is it possible that you never noticed it before? On my car, the check engine light comes on, the engine trouble light comes on, the seat belt light comes on, the air bag light comes on, the abs brakes light comes on and there are probably others.
I think what you are seeing is normal.
Do you have any problems? Is the battery dying? Is the car stalling? If not, you are probably OK.
Gary

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Engine whistling when cold in morning


Your alternator is drawing alot of power trying to charge the battery.Try tightening the belt.That should fix your problem..The reason the alternator is whistling so much on cold starts is because thats when it takes the most power from the battery to start the car.And the noise from the alternator is it charging it back up..So I'd try tighting the belt that will fix the smell and watch for the battery light or alternator light in the dash come on the could be your alternator failing and you dont want that to happen..I hope this helps you fix the problem.Have a great day...

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