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My Wifes 2001 Sunfire's battery goes dead in 2 days. I have traced the current draw to the instrument cluster circuit,it's hot with the ignition off, drawing considerable current , so it kills the battery. Any ideas? We bought it second hand so don't know what has been added or changed.

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  • jimini101 Mar 08, 2009

    Do you know where the relay might be located?
    I am unable to find any info on rhe relay.
    Thanks
    Jim


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Check the relay for the instrument panel... it is likely stuck on

Posted on Mar 07, 2009

  • Roberta Smith
    Roberta Smith Mar 08, 2009

    I stand corrected ... it may be one of the power distribution relays in the fuse box located in the engine compartment near the battery. Just to confirm that it is the instrument cluster. remove the fuse and recheck the current draw at the battery with the key off. it's the forth fuse from the top on the left side of the fuse panel under the dash. 10 amp

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I suggest you take it to a ASE certified repair shop , it sounds like you know nothing about automotive electrical systems . I don't know who told you that a hot wire is touching ! I'd say they don't have a clue either ! From my 30years experience , I'd say the instrument cluster is bad , because I know GM had a lot of problems with them ! But if you still think you want to mess with it , you'll need to pull the instrument cluster out of the vehicle , find a wiring diagram an check the instrument cluster wiring harness an connector for bare wires an check for power an grounds with a DVOM - digital volt ohm meter !
  1. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  2. Observe the IPC.
Does the instrument cluster operate normally?
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Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
Go to Step 3

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  1. Turn OFF the ignition.
  2. Disconnect the IPC.
  3. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  4. Connect a test lamp between the ignition 1 voltage circuit and a good ground.
Does the test lamp illuminate?
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Go to Step 4
Go to Step 7
Connect a test lamp between the ignition 1 voltage circuit of the IPC and the ground circuit of the IPC.
Does the test lamp illuminate? yes or no
Inspect for poor connections at the harness connector of the IPC. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition? yes or no
Repair the open or a high resistance in the ground circuit. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you complete the repair? yes or no
Replace the IPC. Refer to Instrument Cluster Replacement .
Did you complete the replacement?

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You have something drawing on your battery. disconnect the nevagative cable. hook a test light between the negative cable and negative battery post and pull fuses till the test light goes out. when the test light goes out you've found the circuit that's drawing down your battery. trace the circuit and look for a short to ground or if something on that circuit is staying on.

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I am assuming you are positive the battery does not have a dead cell.
There may be fuseable links on the starter that have power from the positive battery cable.
Everything on the truck is fuse in one way or another.

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Sounds like you have a power drain (small-amperage short) in the wiring going to your instrument cluster. The short has disabled some of your instrument cluster lights, but, since is has high resistance, it has not blown a fuse (since it draws to few amps). Once the current drain has wasted enough amperage, there's not enough left in the battery to start the car.
Phase 1: Interim solution: (1) charge the battery with your battery charger (if you don't have a battery charger, attach the battery with jumper cables to the battery in a running car - its alternator will charge your battery).
(2) pull the fuse(s) to the instrument cluster, thus killing power to the short.
(3) start and use you car without instrument cluster lights until you can move
to phase 2 of your repair. If you're not sure that you've killed power to the short, disconect the battery each time you stop the engine.
Phase 2:
(1) isolate the problem (the short) to one specific fuse, meaning one specific branch circuit in the car.
(2) trace the wiring from the fuse block to the instrument cluster, looking for
burn marks, bare wires (all wires should be insulated), or anything touching
a frame ground. Also look for moisture iintrusion - water can cause these types of high resistance "shorts" - with the symptom that the problem disappears after the water dries up.
(3) correct wiring problem found in step 2, plug in fuse. done
(4) if replacing instrument cluster, use instructions below.

1995-99 Models

See Figure 4
Fig. 4: Common instrument cluster found in 1995-97 "S" series Pick-ups.
(see illustration at end of message)

1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Remove the sound insulators/trim panels.
3. If necessary for access, unfasten the steering column nuts and if necessary, the bolts at the lower flange, then lower the column for access.
4. Unfasten the instrument cluster bezel screws located at the lower edge of the bezel. If no screws are present, then remove the bezel by pulling it straight out.
5. Unfasten the four screws retaining the instrument cluster to the instrument panel, unplug any necessary cluster electrical connections, then remove the cluster.

To install.
6. Install the cluster to the instrument panel making sure the cluster is firmly seated onto the connector, attach any necessary electrical connections and tighten the cluster fasteners to 17 inch. lbs. (1.9 Nm).
7. Install the instrument cluster panel bezel by snapping it into position, then if equipped, install the screws along the bottom of the bezel.
8. If lowered, re-position the steering column and tighten retaining nuts to 22 ft. lbs. (30 Nm) on 1995 models. On 1996-99 models tighten the nuts to 20 ft. lbs. (27 Nm). If removed, tighten lower flange bolts to 120 inch lbs. (13 Nm).
9. Install the sound insulators/trim panels.
10. Connect the negative battery cable.

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