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Brake pedal problem

I have a 2004 gmc savana van-brake pedal goes to the floor while running..has new master cylinder and performed bg brake flush-this is not a vacuum assist system, has power booster-no leakes in system does not have any pwere steering issues that i can detect. could the power booster pump be the issue

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I'd bet you dollars against donuts that when the new MC was installed it was left with air in the lines. Bleed the brake lines to get that air out of there, and I suspect your brakes will firm up nicely.


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