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Digital odometer/trip meter works, but not illuminated.

My 2002 Vue has instrument panel issues. The backlights on the non-digital gauges are starting t go, and the dealer told me they can't be replaced. Huh?!?! Then the digital odometer went dark. Still works, but hard to see during the day, and impossible at night. I miss the good old days, when I could look up under the dash, rind the light sockets, and replace the bulbs. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks

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  • bschellhas Mar 31, 2009

    Now i just have to figure out how to get at it!  :)
    Thanks for the info.

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The odometer backlight bulb is replacable but the illimunation bulbs for the other gages are not.

Posted on Mar 31, 2009

  • daruma53 Aug 16, 2011

    Just wish you would have said how to get to the bulb to replace it... but good to know it can be fixed! Just bought one with the same issue.

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