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Anonymous Posted on Mar 24, 2013

Wont crank-all lights,radio & acces. work-it did push start

I checked the battery- the clutch switch- the relays and fuses already. The lead to the selenoid has no voltage. I changed starters just in case and made no difference. when I turn the key it does draw everything else down-[the radio goes off and the lights dim]

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I'd make sure your Grounds are good to begin, then re-wire to the starter? Best of luck.

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  • Anonymous Mar 25, 2013

    i put in a new starter cables are good-i did push start it though

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    dld541 Mar 25, 2013

    You can role it down a hill, push it out have someone tow you a little and pop the clutch and it'll fire up? Sounds like a Electrical issue to me. Check to make sure everything is hooked up and as it should be. Thats all I can tell ya. Best of Luck!

  • Anonymous Mar 30, 2013

    got it fixed for anybody that wants to know! there is a plastic piece in the steering column thats breaks not sending a signal to selenoid. had mach. insall bypass switch. this is a common and expensive problem( $8-900.00) if you can finds parts

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 24, 2009

SOURCE: engine will not turnover

If there is no power coming IN to the starter relay - the ignition module has failed.
Replace the Ignition.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 05, 2010

SOURCE: 1989 Jeep Wrangler no power when key is in on position

Honestly, it sounds like a bad ignition coil. When they get corroded inside they will draw power on a scale much higher than anything else on the vehicle. It is a coil and it's job is to take a little power and make a lot of it. If it's only when the key is in the "run" position, that is likely the case. The only real difference between the two positions is that in the run position there is power being delivered to the ignition system. Good luck.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 28, 2010

SOURCE: My 98 jeep grand cherokee wont start.

fuse 8 40a supplies power to starter relay and ignition switch, to close the starter solenoid and engage the starter which draws directly from the battery. check to see that the starter relay is closing, if not ensure that the park neutral switch is not faulty (open circuit), it provides path to close relay (ground side) on the 85 - 86 terminals. if the starter relay does not close the starter will not run. if you have a spare relay swap out the relay for a quick fix attempt. hope this helps

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