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"Fish Tailing" Octagon wearing on 2 of my summer tires. Fish tailing in snowy conditions. Car wonders left to right on slippery roads. Had drive train checked out at the shop, but everything checks out ok. Could it be something in the steering that is making my tires wonder in different directions?

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    Matt Brinningstaull May 11, 2010

    you may need to have an alignment done or possibly replace the Ti-Rod ends or bad bushings or loose rotor caps.

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It sounds like you have bad tie-rods on it . I would have it checked right away if one falls out you will not be able to turn it you would lose control of that wheel.

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