Starter has been changed to hear the same mettalic sound like the starter gear is not lining up with the fly wheel. upon inspection of fly wheel was not chewed up or damaged any way I could see with a mirror. I turned engine over by hand thinking maybe dead spot... nope not it. put masking tape on the fly wheel put starter back in turned over tape was pulled off.
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There is no way the ring gear will hit the starter pinion unless the fly wheel bolts on the crank shaft or loose allowing the flywheel to run out of true. If you have had clutch/ rear seal work done lately the fly wheel will only fit in one position and if that was ignored at some time then the fly wheel will run out and touch the starter pinion.. I would also check the adjustment on the starter pinion as it has to be set by the lever pivot to a correct distance or it will touch the teeth of the ring gear
Without hearing the sound it makes - it's kind of hard to diagnose.
The engine starting process consists of turning the key to start, the starter motor's rotor moving forward to engage the engine's flywheel, and then the starter motor 's "rotor" spinning until you move the key from "start" to "run". You can hear the starter motor spinning - but one usually can't hear the rotor moving forward to engage the flywheel. As a result, you hear the odd spinning sound - which is the starter rotor spinning. The engine never actually turns over because the rotor never engages the fly wheel. If this is the case, then it is very likely that your starter needs to be checked and / or replaced.
If you are trying to start your vehicle and all you hear is a winging sound and nothing is happening; then your starter and/ or starter selenoid is bad. The sound you are hearing is the starter drive gear trying to engage with the fly wheel and not making it. I would have your starter tested by your local auto parts dealer, like "Autozone".
Was the starter shimmied to match up with the fly wheel properly so the starter gear fly wheel ring gear don't bind or out to far apart that they don't reach each other. The other problem is that if the starter gear was to far apart, it may have shaved the teeth on the starter gear causing your engine not to turn.
Without hearing it I would only be guessing, however I believe starter solenoid is a good guess.
When you turn the key the first position it applies power to the vehicles ignition coil and other operational components. The second position applies power to the starter solenoid which moves the starter gear against the fly wheel so the starter motor can crank the engine to start the combustion process. If the solenoid does not move the small gear against the big gear you will hear the starter motor running with no resistance producing a high pitch whine.Some of the gears could be missing on the fly wheel but it would not start unless you physically moved the vehicle forward to manually move the fly wheel.
Therefore, I would have the starter (starter and solenoid are usually together) checked or replaced. If you have some mechanical knowledge you could do it yourself with minimal tools.I believe turning the key back is not helping you. You just need to turn off the ignition and try to start it again. Sooner or later the solenoid will fail completely and not work at all. I would not want to be stranded so I would fix it soon but it could work intermittently for a while.
sounds like the starter is not disengaging the fly wheel quickly like it should when you turn the key the starter cog connects upto a fly wheel that has teeth all around it when the teeth of starter cog connect between teen on wheel it spins it to crank your car then goes back to starter if you hold your key on after starting the noise you hear is the starter cog(teeth ) still engaged in wheel if this is the sound it needs to be serviced not neccassarily replaced
If I understand the problem, you turn the key, you hear the starter engage, but the engine itself does not turn over. Sounds like the gear that connects the starter to the fly wheel may be damaged. To check, remove the starter and inspect the end with the gear for any teath missing or damaged.