Just bought my wife a Rover 25 1.4 iL '02 model.
Its done 37000 miles.
The garage have agreed to change the cam belt as part of the deal before we get the car.
I've just been reading on the internet that its good practice that the water pump is also changed at the same time.
How can I convince the garage that this is the case?
Their view so far is:
'You would do so only if there is a problem with the pump. The only vehicles where it is necessary is on certain Vauxhalls where the pump acts as a tensioner. All pullies and tensioners will be changed at the same time as the cambelt'
Are they right in their statement does anyone know?
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Re: cam belt/water pump for Rover 25
If all the other rollers and tensioners have covered 37000miles and they need changing why leave the water pump,it has as much tension on it as the rest of the tensioners......if they wont change it ask them to guarantee it against failure if they are that confident it shouldnt be a problem,or if it does fail will they pay for the replacement cylinder head/engine ?because it will destroy it !!!!!!
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Peugeot have said 144K or 10 years on 1.4 HDi
If you are replacing the water pump it would be foolish not to replace the belt and tensioner at the same time.
Costs will vary depending upon garage chosen. It is a 2 1/2 hour ish job so that plus parts.
60,000 miles or 5years which ever comes sooner, ps. easy job but make sure the water pump is ok. good idea to change that also at the same time, seen to many fail just after belt replacement. if its a auto tensioner which at that year it should be, change that also. get a kit with all in. good luck.
you are have what is known as a dry tappet. last for 5-10 min on startup. now you can leave it or you can change the oil and filter. when changing oil I mean you use oil treatment first to remove the old oil deposits. then change the oil. the only other way is expensive removing the cam's that involve taking of the timing chain and other parts to remove the dry tappet and clean out the vaine. but usaly a good oil change will fix this problem..
REPLACE SPARK PLUGS AND WIRES, REPLACE DISTRIBUTOR CAP AND ROTOR. NEED CHANGE ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER.YOU NEED CHANGE TIMING BELT HAS TO BE CHANGED EVERY 60000 MILES TIMING BELT CHANGING TIME OVER DUE.REPLACE WATER PUMP WHEN YOU REPLACE TIMING BELT BECAUSE TIMING COVER HAS TO BE REMOVED WHEN YOU REPLACE WATER PUMP ALSO GET BOTH DONE SAVE TIME AND MONEY.CHANGE TRANSMISSION FLUID AND FILTER.REPLACE FUEL FILTER AND AIR FILTER.FLUSH COOLANT SYSTEM REPLACE THERMOSTAT AND RADIATOR PRESSURE CAP HAVE GARAGE FLUSH OUT BRAKE SYSTEM ADD NEW BRAKE FLUID.INSPECT BRAKES HOSES CHECK FRONT BRAKES PADS AND CHECK INSIDE CALIPER FOR LEAKING SEALS CHECK REAR DRUM BRAKE SHOES CHECK FOR LEAKING WHEEL CYLINDER SEALS.CHECK BALL JOINTS AND STEERING LINKAGE SEALS.CHECK DRIVE BELT OR BELTS.CHECK POWER STEERING FLUID LOOK OLD DIRTY HAVE GARAGE CHANGE POWER STEERING FLUID.ALL THOSE THINGS HAS TO BE CHECK AND DONE IF LAST OWNER NEGLECT DID NOT TAKE CARE OF VECHICLE.ITS GOING TO BE A EXPENSIVE COST. JUST DO A LITTLE AT A TIME.THE TIMING BELT WOULD BE MY WORRY IF IT BREAKS ENGINE IS DONE.I WOULD REPLACE WATER PUMP AND TIMING BELT FIRST WOULD DRIVE MUCH UNTIL THATS FIX.
Your 1997 Toyota with the 3.4 L V6 is an interference engine. This means if the belt breaks serious engine damage will occur. The belt must be replaced at 90,000 miles or 10 years under normal conditions and 60,000 under severe conditions. So, you need to have the belt replaced immediately as you are over the maximum of the belt's life. I would not drive this vehicle anywhere except to a trusted mechanic to have the belt replaced. The same belt that drives the cam also drives the water pump. In order to replace the water pump the cam belt must be removed. For that reason and the fact that the pump will not last 180,000 miles I highly recommend you have the water pump replaced at the same time as the cam belt. This will save you on labor cost later on when the pump would fail. Plus it might save more if the engine overheats. As you are going to replace the water pump this is a great time to drain and flush the cooling system and replace the thermostat which may or may not have been done in the past. You also will need to replace the spark plugs if that has never been done. Remember this is an INTERFERENCE engine. Keep driving the vehicle without replacing the belt and you are driving a time bomb that can explode at any time. Hope this is helpful to you.
I just did the timing belts on mine; there is one main timing belt that connects to the crank, water pump, tentioner, idler, and to the intake cams on each head. The small timing belts are at each head at the rear of the head where the intake cam belts to the exhaust cams. If you pay like $30 on ALLDATAdiy.com website you can subscribe for an online repair manual for the vehicle; where they have instructions and diagrams. If you look on YOUTUBE under the search for "rover kv6 timing belt replacement" there is films on this engine.
You need to have the cam belt & water pump replaced at 110,000 miles not 90,000. You should have the transmission fluid changed, brakes & all hoses inspected. The coolant should be drained, thermostat replaced and fresh coolant installed. Of course the air & cabin filter should be replaced every 30,000 miles. The fuel filter is permanent and needs no replacing. Brake fluid should be changed unless you have already had this done. Serpentine belt replaced at 110,000 miles with the cam belt.