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Stumbles on idle,hard to start when cold

My 1997 sunfire 2.4 will not start well when it is 10 or more below zero,i have to crank it a long time before she starts,it also stumbles real bad only on idle.i have put in a used feul pump new ones are too expensive for a guess?.then i changed coil packs ignition maudule and top of the line plugs,still stumbles.i also tried to put feul directily ino the throtlebody for my cold starts that helped but after a bad backfire my misfire seemed to have gotten worse.the misfire seems to go away when in gear otherwise i have plenty of power. can this be as simple as a map sensor?i have checked the vacume hose for the sensor and it is fine..can you help me....

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  • mandyyy Feb 24, 2009

    i pretty much have the same problem!!! my car died a couple days ago in the morning and i noticed the first time it died on me..it was up and runnign no problem after..and it was early in the morning ..somewaht cold..there was a few other times it wanted to ..and it shook a little when i was always in the dunkin donuts drive thru and it was fine after i went over 25mph. my dad changed the idle tiem on it and it was okay but once in awhile would still do that...and then the other day it **** the bed completely haha. it has a hard time starting and when it is on its very loud..and isnt on long. it sounds like its chopping things up in the engine..everything you described my dad mentioned about the car...and he mentioned the coil and a timing chain jump..and something about the camshaft and valves opening and closing at teh wrong times...! and the alternator was fine!! he took apart the engine and nothing!! i just hit 150k.. i wonder if this is common.

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That would be your coolant temp sensor it makes the car really hard to start in the cold and has poor acceleration and idle during warmup.

usally this goes away after the motor is hot

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