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85 FLEETWOOD BROUGHM RWD 4.1 TPS SHORTED

I'VE REPLACED THREE TPS AND STILL GET SAME CODE 26 (E26) ,TPS SHORTED,IDLES VERY ROUGH AND HAS MISS WHEN DRIVING EVEN @ 55MPH. ALSO GET CODE 38 (E38) ,OPEN MAP SENSOR CIRCUIT ,HAVE REPLACED MAP TWO TIMES. I'VE RESET CODES BY USE OF ON BOARD COMPUTED THROUGH THE TEMP. BUTTONS AND ALSO FROM OUTSIDE CODE READER. I SET THE IDLE UP TO KEEP RUNNING AND OF COURSE NOW HAVE MORE CODES : 19 / 23 /30 I NEED THE CAR TO GET TO AND FROM VA HOSPITAL WHICH IS 2 1/2 HRS. ONE WAY. " HELP ME PLEASE " THANK YOU, JB

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  • noblenevatt Mar 01, 2009

    I had/have the same problem and I think it is electrical. I got the flow sheet off alldata and after running through all the "boxes" ended up with "find open circuit". I think there is a grounding problem on the ECM circuit-but still can find mine. I have replaced many parts, and I just get a new problem dealing with the same circuit.

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LEAVE BATTERY DISCONNECTED FOR 10 MINUTES AND TRY RESETTING THAT WAY.
HOPEFULLY IT IS NOT A FAULT WITH THE COMPUTER OR IN THE TPS WIRING

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Hi there:
P0121 - Throttle Position Sensor/Switch A Circuit Range/Performance

The Throttle position sensor is a potentiometer that measures the amount of throttle opening. As the throttle is opened, the reading (measured in volts) goes up. The powertrain control module (PCM) supplies a 5 Volt reference signal to the throttle position sensor (TPS) and usually a ground also. A general measurement is: at idle = .5 Volts; full throttle = 4.5 Volts. If the PCM detects that the throttle angle is greater or less than it should be for a specific RPM, it will set this code.


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Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illumination (Check Engine Light or Service Engine Soon light)
Intermittent stumble on acceleration or deceleration
Blows black smoke on acceleration
No start


A code P0121 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
TPS has intermittent open or short internally
Harness is rubbing and causing an open or short in the wiring
Bad connection at the TPS
Bad PCM (less likely)
Water or corrosion in connector or sensor

Possible Solutions:
1. If you have access to a scan tool, see what the idle and WOT (wide open throttle) readings are for the TPS. Check if they're close to the specifications mentioned above. If not, then replace the TPS and re-check.

2. Check for an intermittent open or short in the TPS signal. To do that, you can't use a scan tool. You'll need an oscilliscope. The reason is because scan tools take samplings of many different readings over just one or two data lines and can miss an intermittent drop out. Hook up your oscilliscope and watch the signal. It should sweep up and down smoothly with no drop outs or spikes.

3. If no problems were noticed, perform a wiggle test. Do this by wiggling the connector and harness while watching the pattern. Does it drop out? If so, replace TPS and re-check.

4. If you have no TPS signal, check for 5 Volt reference at the connector. If it's present, check the ground circuit for open or shorts.

5. Make sure the signal circuit isn't 12V. It should never have battery voltage. If it does, trace circuit for short to voltage and repair.

6. Look for any water in the connector and replace TPS as necessary.


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A P0123 code means that the the car's computer has detected that the TPS (throttle position sensor) is reporting too high a voltage.


Symptoms may include:
Rough idle
High idle
Surging
other symptoms may also be present


A code P0123 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
TPS not mounted securely
TPS circuit short to ground or another wire
Faulty TPS
Damaged computer (PCM)

Possible Solutions
If there are no symptoms, the simplest thing to do is to reset the code and see if it comes back.

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and this link may help
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