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Loss of power til 4500rpm even worse when cold 1996 shogun 3.0 v6

Feels like ignition retarded..
Tried airflow sensor and throttle cable also checked exhaust.

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My bet is on bad plugs or bad wires, how old are they? if more than 50k on iridiums, or 15-20k on coppers. Replace them with NGKs... autozone will try to tell you that other brands are the same, but they are NOT.

The front three are easy to get to, if you want to verify if this is your problem, pull one of the front three plugs, you should be able to tell their condition by looking, and if you replace the front three, you may even see a small increase in power... if you do, then you will know you need to do the rears... they are a bit harder.

If you go to a mechanic, they will want 300+ to change your plugs because the rears are so much more difficult because you have to take off the upper plenum to do it...

It is actually something that is pretty easy for a shade-tree mechanic to do, just be very careful once you pull off the plenum to NOT drop anything down into your cylinders... ESPECIALLY THE WASHERS FROM THE NUTS ON THE ENDS OF THE UPPER PLENUM! When you take off the 5 bolts, and the two nuts, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL 7 WASHERS and have set them aside before you remove the plenum. I know of 2 guys who had to have an engine rebuilt because they dropped washers down in there.

To remove the plenum (in addition to the 5 bolts and two nuts I talked about above) You need to remove:

  • The intake pipe from the throttle body, but you do not need to remove the throttle body itself
  • The 4 12mm bolts holding it to brackets on the back, three are on the plenum side, and one goes into the throttle body (when you put it back together, make sure you re-attach the grounding strap)
  • The EGR piping
  • The throttle cable
  • The bracket on the passenger side with the three electrical connectors.
What you are going to do is pivot the plenum up out of the way, using a piece of coat hanger to hang it from the hood where it will stay out of the way, if you don't remove the bracket with the three plugs, it will put tension on your fuel injector harness, and may break one of the fuel injector connectors.

When the rear three are back in, simply reverse the steps... Although, I HIGHLY recommend you get a service manual which has these steps as well as pictures. If you are the lease bit mechanically inclined, you should be able to knock out this job in less than two hours.

if you are wanting a good way to see if your wires are ok, pull the trim plate off the front plugs, and idle the car at night with the hood up.. if you see arcing and sparking, the plugs are bad.

Good luck,
Scott
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Posted on Feb 15, 2009

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