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Pulled into 4 wheel drive lost all electrical power

Engine quit and had no lights. Played with 4 wheel lever and could get the motor started but still had no lights and when I stepped on the brakes the motor quit. Finally let it run some but still couldn't get bright lights. Mechanic checked alternator and voltage regulator. Said it was charging at a low rate but new alternater changed nothing.

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Well it turned out to be something simple. It was caused by a bad grounding battery cable.

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Operationally vacuum shifts the front axle between 2WD and 4WD mode. The GEM ( Generic Electronics Module ) applies ground to the solenoid needed for the mode selected on the switch ( for ESOF ) or when the transfer case shift lever is moved ( MSOF ).The contact plates in the transfer case signal the GEM that the transfer case is engaged, and the Vacuum solenoids need to be activated ( either 2WD to 4WD or 4WD to 2WD ).


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I am going to take a SWAG that it is 1 of 2 places, both cases the front drive shaft is locking into place.

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