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Problem with wiper circuit

I have an 2005 chrysler t&c, when i turn the wiper switch on, the wipers dont always come on the washer motor works correctly, some times when you put the wipers on hi you only get intermitten wipers. when i got the hi speed on i couldn't turn them off then finally they decided to go off and work properly as i kept testing the switch it did it again

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  • gbaby19 Jan 30, 2009

    do the wiper control modules go bad often

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Please check the voltage at the wipers fuses, your car book must have a description of the fuses diagram so you know where to look for those fuses.
now with computer todays problems are sometimes very complicated and the technicians, no matter how well trained and knowledgable, sometimes have a difficult time diagnosing some things.
if you still have the problem after fuse checking try calling the chrysler garage for more hints on this problem or take the car there for the test.

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Well on the wiper arm at the base there is a cover that hides a bolt, check make sure its tight, .
also check the fuse in the module if that blown out or its a circuit breaker.

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1. Determine if the motor is working or not. With the engine off, turn on the wipers and listen for motor running. If the wiper motor is running, the problem may be with the linkage.

2. To check linkage, remove the wiper arms from the shafts (fold arms away from windshield, move out locking tab, then take arm off the splined shaft by rocking or gently prying). Then remove the cowling by taking out 7 Phillips head sheet metal screws. Look at the linkage to see if it might be broken or if the linkage has come off the plastic bushing on the wiper motor.

3. If the motor is not running, first check the fuse. Replace fuse if it is blown. If not, the motor most likely needs replaced.

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Welcome to Fixya! This is a Direct Problem with the Switch. You may need to Get the Switch from the Dealership. This is an Easy Repair. Just Replace the Switch and It will work Normally. Please Rate My Response! Thanks!

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Its the wiring getting cut in between so the connection is loose as its not functioning properly .replace the wiring from the control module where it is connected to function/

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Yuor wiper switch is defective.
Replacement is your option.

Thanks for using FixYa - a FixYa rating is appreciated!!

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    blueextc3221 Jan 30, 2009

    The assembly looks like this....








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    blueextc3221 Jan 30, 2009

    No. (but yes - if you constantly use them). use creates wear, and wear causes failure.

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    blueextc3221 Jan 30, 2009

    You can find cheaper parts online, or junkyard perhaps.

    Some proprietary parts arent released by the manufacturer for 10 years to the aftermarket.



    Good Luck - its not a simple repair!! The steering wheel, and airbag must be removed to access the switch.

    Dealership is your best bet depending on your mechanical aptitude.

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I have a 2009 gmc sierra, where is the wiper relay location.


The PCB wiper relays are soldered directly to circuit board inside the under hood fuse box.
The windshield wiper/washer switch signal circuits are inputs to the body control module (BCM) and the BCM controls wiper motor low speed operation, washer pump and high speed operation. The windshield wiper/washer switch is provided a low reference from the BCM and each of the switch signal circuits is supplied 12 volts through a resistor and monitored within the BCM. During LOW or INTERMITTENT operation the wiper switch low signal circuit is closed to the low reference circuit through a series of resistors within the switch assembly and the signal circuit voltage monitored by the BCM will depend on the switch contact location to the resistor assembly. During HIGH or WASH operation the high and wash switch signal circuits are closed directly to the low reference circuit within the switch assembly and nearly all the signal circuit voltage will be dropped across the BCM resistors. The BCM controls the wiper motor through the WIPER CONTROL PCB Relay and the WIPER SPEED PCB Relay. During any wiper motor function that uses low speed the BCM supplies the voltage to energize the WIPER CONTROL PCB Relay and battery voltage will be supplied from the WIPER CONTROL PCB Relay through the de-energized WIPER SPEED PCB Relay to the wiper motor low speed control circuit. During high speed wiper motor operation the WIPER CONTROL PCB Relay is energized as in low speed and the BCM provides a ground to energize the WIPER SPEED PCB Relay and the battery voltage is supplied to the wiper motor high speed control circuit. Wiper motor park operation is controlled by the BCM using an input from the park switch within the wiper motor assembly. The BCM supplies the park switch signal circuit 12 volts through a resistor then monitors the circuit. Whenever the wiper motor is out of the park position the park switch signal circuit is closed to ground and nearly all the signal circuit voltage will be dropped across the BCM resistor. When the wiper switch is turned to the OFF position while the wiper motor is somewhere in mid-cycle, the BCM will continue to operate the motor until the wipers reach the park position. If the ignition is turned OFF while the wipers are in mid-cycle, the wipers will stop immediately where they are and the BCM will park the wipers the next time the ignition is cycled ON.

DTC B3715 02: Front Wiper Relay Drive Circuit Short to Ground
DTC B3875 00: Wiper High Speed Relay Circuit
DTC B3922 00: Front Wiper Function Select Circuit
Have it checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes .

The body control module (BCM) controls the wiper motor based on input from the windshield wiper washer switch. The BCM monitors the wiper washer switch through three separate signal circuits and a ground circuit. The windshield wiper switch high signal circuit is used to determine high speed wiper operation, the windshield wiper switch low signal is used to determine low speed, intermittent, and mist operation through the use of a resistor ladder, and windshield washer switch signal circuit is used to determine washer operation.
The BCM controls the windshield wiper motor through two output controls, controlling two relays which determine the desired wiper speed, high or low.
Your best bet , take your vehicle to a qualified repair shop or dealer . Hooking up a factory scan tool to see what the wiper switch inputs to the BCM are correct and outputs to relays are good .

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2002 trialblazer rear window wiper inop. changed switch and motor. no power to motor. cannot find relay nor fuse


There are something's involved that you are not aware of , or familiar with . Electronic control modules .
Rear Wiper/Washer System Controls
• Body control module (BCM)
• Liftgate control module (LGM)
• Rear wiper/washer switch
Do you know what a serial data network is ?
Rear Wiper/Washer System Operation
The rear window wiper/washer switch is an input to the BCM. The requested rear wiper mode is sent to the liftgate control module (LGM) by the BCM as a message on the serial data circuit, and the rear window wiper motor is controlled by the LGM. The switch power circuit to the rear wiper/washer switch is a 12-volt reference supplied by the BCM during ignition on, accessory or RAP power modes. The rear wiper/washer switch is a series of resistors and the switch position is determined by the voltage of the rear wiper/washer switch signal circuit to the BCM. The rear wiper/washer switch has continuity at all times and the BCM expects a rear wiper/washer switch signal voltage in all switch positions including OFF. The rear wiper motor is supplied battery positive voltage and ground. The LGM controls rear wiper motor operation through the rear wiper motor control circuit. The rear wiper motor control circuit is supplied a battery positive reference voltage by the rear wiper motor module and is pulse width modulated to ground by the LGM. The duty cycle of the pulse width modulation determines the rear wiper motor operating mode. The liftglass and liftgate ajar switches are inputs to the LGM and must be in an inactive state in order for rear wiper washer system operation to be enabled. When an ajar switch is active the LGM suspends wiper motor operation directly and sends the ajar switch status messages over the serial data circuit enabling the BCM to suspend washer pump operation. The rear window washer pump is controlled by the BCM through the rear washer relay. Battery positive voltage is supplied to the coil and switch sides of the rear washer relay. When the rear window wash request is active the BCM energizes the relay by grounding the relay coil through the rear washer relay control circuit. When the relay is energized battery positive voltage to the relay switch is supplied to the washer pump control circuit.

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop and have it checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes .
DTC B1017 or B3970
The rear wiper motor is supplied battery positive voltage and ground. The liftgate control module controls rear wiper motor operation through the rear wiper motor control circuit. The rear wiper motor control circuit is supplied a battery positive reference voltage by the rear wiper motor module and is pulse width modulated to ground by the liftgate control module. The duty cycle of the pulse width modulation determines the rear wiper motor operating mode.
DTC B3799

2
Turn the ignition ON.
Operate the rear wiper switch through all the switch positions.
Does the rear window wiper operate normally?
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YES - Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
NO - Go to Step 3
3
Install a scan tool.
Display the liftgate control module data list.
Observe the following parameters while operating the respective switches. Refer to Scan Tool Data List for typical values.
• Liftgate Ajar Switch
• Liftglass Ajar Switch
Did the scan tool indicate the correct switch positions?
--
Go to Step 4
Go to Courtesy Lamps Inoperative in Lighting Systems
4
Observe the requested rear wiper parameter in LGM data list.
Operate the rear wiper switch through all the switch positions.
Does the scan tool indicate the correct requested rear wiper parameter in relation to the switch position?
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Go to Step 5
Go to Step 6

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2003 Pontiac Montana wipers not working how to fix


First you need a wiring diagram, free at http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html Then you need a DVOM - digital volt ohm meter to test the circuit . Then if your not familiar with automotive electrical systems testing ,go on youtube an check out Electric Testing Techniques You Need to Know Also having a factory diagnostic trouble shooting chart would also be usefull . You could just start replacing parts , you mite get lucky . The wiper motor is a high fail part , so is the switch ..You could find the fuse is blown ! But fuse's don't usually blow without a reason . Short to ground , low resistance . ( high current flow) Also knowing how they work and what all is involved in making them work.
The Wiper/Washer System consists of the following components:
• Windshield wiper/washer switch
• Windshield wiper motor module
• Windshield wiper motor
• Windshield washer pump motor
• FRT/WPR/WSHR 25A fuse

Wiper/Washer System Operation
The windshield wiper motor module is part of the windshield wiper motor cover and controls wiper motor operation. The windshield wiper motor is a 2 speed motor and is operated at low speed in all modes except HIGH. The accessory voltage supply circuit to the windshield wiper motor assembly is used to operate the wiper motor in all of the low speed modes. The accessory voltage supply circuit to the windshield wiper/washer switch is used to supply the windshield wiper switch signal circuits and the wiper motor high speed circuit.
When the wiper/washer switch is in the LOW position voltage is supplied through a 24K ohm resistor within the switch to the windshield wiper switch signal 2 circuit, and accessory voltage is supplied to the windshield wiper switch signal 1 circuit. The reduced voltage from the wiper switch signal 2 circuit and accessory voltage from the wiper switch signal 1 circuit causes the wiper motor module to close the wiper motor accessory voltage supply circuit to the wiper motor low speed terminal.
Windshield wiper/washer system MIST operation is identical to LOW operation except that the MIST switch is a press and release type. When the wiper switch is moved to the MIST position and released, low speed wiper motor operation is started and will continue until 1 cycle is complete. If the wiper switch is moved to the MIST position and held, the windshield wiper motor will operate in the LOW mode until the switch is released.

Don't the wipers work in any mode ?
1
Did you review the Wiper/Washer System description and operation and perform the necessary inspections?
YES - Go to Step 2
NO - Go to Symptoms - Wiper/Washer Systems
2
Turn ON the ignition , with the engine OFF.
Operate the windshield wiper/washer switch through all the switch positions.
Does the windshield wiper/washer system operate normally?
YES - Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
NO - Go to Step 3
3
Turn OFF the ignition.
Disconnect the harness connector of the windshield wiper motor.
Turn the ignition ON, with the engine OFF.
Connect a test lamp from the accessory voltage circuit of the windshield wiper motor to a good ground.
Does the test lamp illuminate?
YES - Go to Step 4
NO - Go to Step 13
4
Connect a test lamp from the accessory voltage circuit to the ground circuit of the windshield wiper motor.
Does the test lamp illuminate?
YES - Go to Step 5
NO - Go to Step 14
5
Connect a test lamp from the signal 2 circuit of the windshield wiper switch to a good ground.
Press the windshield washer switch.
Does the test lamp illuminate?
YES - Go to Step 11
NO - Go to Step 6
Let me know if you make it this far and i will send rest of diagnostic's

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Windshield wipers don't shut off and washers don't work


So that wipers park properly, the wipers have 2 power sources. One is from the dash switch to turn the wipers no and off, but the second is the parking power, which is always supposed to be on. The parking power is supposed to be shut off by a rotating cam inside of the wiper motor housing itself. If you don't want to take it out and fix it, you could always just pull the parking wire to the wipers, and then try to manually park them by shutting off the wipers at exactly the right time.

Jan 11, 2016 | 2002 Mercury Cougar

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Why is my windshield wipers running in the off position, it's like they are running in the intermittent position, but it's in the off position.


When the windshield wiper / washer switch is turned to the OFF position while the wiper motor is somewhere in mid-cycle, the wiper motor module will continue to operate the wiper motor until the wipers reach the park position. If the ignition is turned off while the wipers are in mid-cycle, the wipers will stop immediately where they are. The wipers will park the next time the ignition is cycled to the ON position.

Schematic Reference: Wiper/Washer Schematics


1

Did you review the Wiper/Washer System Description and Operation and perform the necessary inspections?
Go to Step 2
Go to Symptoms - Wiper/Washer Systems

2

  1. Turn the ignition ON.
  2. Turn the windshield wiper/washer switch OFF.
Are the windshield wipers always on?
Go to Step 3
Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems

3

Disconnect the windshield wiper/washer switch connector.
Are the windshield wipers always on?
Go to Step 4 if yes
Go to Step 7 if no

4

  1. Disconnect the windshield wiper motor connector.
  2. Test the windshield wiper switch signal 1 circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 5

5

Test the windshield wiper switch signal 2 circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 6

6

Test the windshield wiper motor high speed circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 9

7

Inspect for poor connections at the windshield wiper/washer switch. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and to Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 8

8

Replace the windshield wiper/washer switch. Refer to Windshield Wiper and Washer Switch Replacement - On Vehicle in Steering Wheel and Column.
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 11
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9

Inspect for poor connections at the windshield wiper motor. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and to Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 10

10

Replace the windshield wiper motor. Refer to Windshield Wiper Motor Replacement .
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 11
--

11

Operate the system in order to verify the repair.
Did you correct the condition?
The Wiper / Washer System consists of the following components:
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Windshield wiper / washer switch


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Windshield wiper system module / motor


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Windshield washer fluid pump


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Windshield washer fluid level switch


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Instrument panel cluster (IPC)


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ACC 15-amp fuse


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WSW 30-amp fuse

Jan 04, 2016 | 2002 Pontiac Bonneville

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Wipers dont work


This is a complex wiper system . Here are all the components involved !
The Wiper/Washer System consists of the following components:
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Windshield wiper/washer switch


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Body control module (BCM)


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Wiper 1 relay


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Wiper 2 relay


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Wiper diode


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Windshield wiper motor


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Windshield washer pump


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Windshield washer nozzles


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Windshield washer solvent container


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Windshield wiper arm and blade assemblies


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Windshield wiper transmission


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WIPER/SW 10A fuse


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WIPER 25A fuse


Circuit/System Description
The body control module (BCM) controls the wiper motor based on input from the windshield wiper washer switch. The BCM monitors the wiper washer switch through three separate signal circuits and a ground circuit. The windshield wiper switch high signal circuit is used to determine high speed wiper operation, the windshield wiper switch low signal is used to determine low speed, intermittent, and mist operation through the use of a resistor ladder, and windshield washer switch signal circuit is used to determine washer operation. The windshield wiper motor park operation is controlled by the BCM. The BCM recieves an input from the park switch to determine wiper blade position. When the wiper blades are at the bottom of the windshield glass in park position the wiper park switch will open and the circuit will be pulled up to B+ by the BCM. The park signal will be pulled to ground by the wiper motor park switch while the wiper blades are not in the park position.
The BCM controls the windshield wiper motor through two output controls, controlling two relays which determine the desired wiper speed, high or low
Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs)
The body control module (BCM) monitors the voltage on the windshield wiper switch signal 2 circuit for diagnostic purposes. If the circuit is shorted to voltage while the driver is commanded OFF, the BCM will store DTC B3715. If the circuit is shorted to ground while the driver is commanded ON, the BCM will store DTC B3715. Refer to DTC B3715.
It would be best to have a factory scan tool to diagnose this problem . it would make it easier anyway .
It

Dec 05, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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I have a 2007 mustang an the wipers wont turn off I had 2 pull the fuse to turn them off can u help me


The windshield wiper motor is a smart wiper motor with an integrated electronics module. The internal components of the motor are the high/low relay, washer pump relay, and the run/park relay and associated electronics.
The windshield wiper motor receives its inputs from the windshield wiper/washer switch. These signals are ground reference signals. When the switch is placed in different positions, various input signals are selected and sent through circuits to the motor. The windshield wiper motor module identifies these selected input signals and activates the motor to the selected function.!
Your probably going to need a new wiper motor ! ! ! But you should always test before replacing parts !
Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Windshield washer pump hoses
  • Windshield wiper mounting arm and pivot shaft
  • Bussed electrical center (BEC) fuse 10 (30A)
  • Smart junction box (SJB) fuse 3 (10A)
  • Circuitry
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • Windshield washer pump
  • Windshield wiper/washer switch
  • The wipers stay on continuously
  • Circuitry
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • Windshield wiper/washer switch
  • Go To Pinpoint Test C .
PINPOINT TEST C: THE WIPERS STAY ON CONTINUOUSLY s6b~tr~en~file=ani_caut.gif~gen~ref.gif CAUTION: Use the correct probe adaptor(s) when making measurements. Failure to use the correct probe adaptor(s) may damage the connector.
Test Step Result / Action to Take C1 CHECK THE WINDSHIELD WIPER/WASHER SWITCH
  • Key in OFF position.
  • Disconnect: Windshield Wiper/Washer Switch C2137.
  • Carry out the windshield wiper/washer switch component test. Refer to Wiring Diagrams Cell 149 for schematic and connector information.
  • Does the windshield wiper/washer switch pass the component test?
Yes
GO to C2 .

No
INSTALL a new windshield wiper/washer switch. REFER to Wiper/Washer Switch in this section. C2 CHECK CIRCUITS 56 (DB/OG), 58 (WH), 61 (YE/RD), AND 63 (RD) FOR A SHORT TO GROUND
  • Disconnect: Windshield Wiper Motor C125.
  • Measure the resistance between the windshield wiper motor C125, harness side and ground as follows:

    Windshield Wiper Motor C125 Pin Circuit C125-10 56 (DB/OG) C125-11 58 (WH) C125-1 63 (RD) C125-9 61 (YE/RD)

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  • Are the resistances greater than 10,000 ohms?
Yes
GO to C3 .

No
REPAIR the circuit(s). TEST the system for normal operation. C3 CHECK FOR CORRECT WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR OPERATION
  • Disconnect all the windshield wiper motor connectors.
  • Check for:
    • corrosion.
    • pushed-out pins.
  • Connect all the windshield wiper motor connectors and make sure they seat correctly.
  • Operate the system and verify the concern is still present.
  • Is the concern still present?
Yes
INSTALL a new windshield wiper motor. REFER to Wiper Motor in this section. TEST the system for normal operation.

No
The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by a loose or corroded connector.
You

Feb 20, 2015 | 2007 Ford Mustang Coupe

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Where is the wiper relay


A wiring diagram doesn't show a relay, just a 25 amp fuse in fuse panel under driver's side of dash. Intermittent working is usually from a loose or poor or corroded connection, or the switch is old and tired, or the motor is old and tired.
Here is one way to check, if you have a test light: when the wipers are not working with wiper switch on high, and key is on, pull off the connector to the wiper/washer motor module (in the engine bay, on the firewall) and check if the purple wire has power. If it does, you probably need to replace the module. Inside the module is a park relay switch (to return wipers to down position when turned off) and a circuit breaker between the motor and ground.
If the purple wire does not have power when key is on and wipers on high, the connection is lost between the switch and the module, or the switch may be malfunctioning. The switch has 5 wires, white wire from 25 amp fuse (power in to switch), a pink wire (for the washer motor), a purple wire (high speed wipers), a dark green wire (low speed wipers), and a gray wire (for the park relay switch inside the wiper/washer motor module). If you see a yellow wire also at the module, that is part of the low speed wiper circuit (the dark green wire) coming from the park relay switch and then to the motor.
Good luck. Post back if further questions, or need more help.

Jun 06, 2013 | 1983 Chevrolet Celebrity

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1988 jeep cherokee,6 cylinder my front windsheild wipers dont work.fuse is good.the wiper motor makes a noise when its turned on.is there a relay that could be faulty?wiper switch is the same as the turn...


No relay in the circuit.
There is a delay module but if it fails that usually causes the wipers to stop in the middle of travel or only run on high.
And the switch is working if you hear noise coming from the motor. The wiper switch is not the same switch as the turn signals but it is near that assembly.
I would say if you have power to the wiper motor the motor is probably dead or something happened to the linkage to the arms.

Feb 27, 2013 | 1988 Jeep Cherokee

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