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1998 Honda Odyssey. After plugging in air compressor to inverter and in turn cig lighter, Van wont start. Dash Lights, Head lights, everything works except starter. Also a green "key shaped" light that flashes two, three, times after key is turned off. Please advise!

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    Patrick Bogan Jan 27, 2009

    Alas!....the shifter wont move either! The first thing I thought of was the neutral safety switch. Dont know if the "range selector" you refer to is the same thing. Sound familiar?

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    Patrick Bogan Jan 29, 2009

    I say ol' Telemachus,

    I give you 110 percent for excellent try's. Given the fact that this vehicle is sitting on dead level ground precludes that assumption. I will try rocking it a bit to see if that is a possibility. If we put our heads together, we just might solve this damn thing. If you will recall, the original problem was due to a electrical fopaux (sp?) Is it possible that this "Inverter induced" problem would take out a neutral safety switch before taking out say a....fusible link? As Im sure you know, electricity can do some weird things. What are your thoughts on the aformentioned??

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    Thanks again for your time and interest......


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    Patrick Bogan Feb 06, 2009

    Problem solved on Honda Odyssey. Since it wouldnt turn over, I checked for voltage at solenoid while key was in start mode. Since voltage was present, I removed starter to investigate. Using jumper cables, I bench tested the starter. This showed starter OK. Now cables were suspect. Re crimped cable ends and re installed starter. Van started right up. The issue with the gear selector switch was solenoid that activates it (under the steering column) was not operating properly and needed replacing. Thanks to those who tried helping....

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It could be the transmission range switch is bad. Try starting in neutral instead of park. Jiggle the shift lever in park and/or neutral while trying to start. If this works, you'll want to change out the switch. If not, note that the transmission range switch allows power to operate a coil in the starter cut out relay which latches contacts closed thus sending power to the starter solenoid. The starter cut out relay could be bad--its located on the backside of the driver's kick panel fuse block. You could check the relay coil with your ohm meter.

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  • David Melrose Jan 28, 2009

    Okay......If the car was parked on a slope and shifted into park with just the brake pedal being held--then when the brake pedal was released, the weight of the car began holding the parking pawl in the transmission in a locked position. That's why it won't shift out of park. If you have an owner's manual, look up the the procedure for "Shift lock release" in the index. You'll be able to shift the car out of park and into neutral for a start. BUT, before doing that, I would try to rock the vehicle forward and backward to see if I could get the weight off the parking pawl and move the shifter out of park. The shift lock release procedure will leave a unsightly hole on your steering column trim until you can get a new shift lock release slot cover.

  • David Melrose Jan 29, 2009

    Too bad it wasn't a slope problem huh? That would have been too easy. Did you check out the solenoid yet? I'm wondering if you have more than an inverter induced problem as I would have thought any problem with the inverter would have simply blown the fuse to the cig lighter or maybe another fuse up the line. Another easy thing to try is a computer reset. Find the fuse for the ECM (also called ECU or PCM) and pull it out for 10 seconds then replace. This will reset the computer (and also erase any trouble codes). I don't know how or why this might help but it is easy to do...even in the cold.

  • David Melrose Jan 29, 2009

    Okay, I found a fuse that may be the problem. Check fuse no. 9 in the driver's side kick panel fuse box. It has a 10A fuse that controls the shift lock solenoid, and "keyless receiver unit" among other things. I'm using '99 diagrams so I hope the '98 is close. I pulled this one on my 2002 Odyssey and it locked the shifter in Park. However, I could start my car in park. Is it possible you have this fuse blown plus a weak (not dead) battery? Have you tried jump starting from another battery/vehicle?

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Update....

Haven't had a chance to verify this for certain, but, I learned that if the starting system is in "interrupter mode" the engine will turn over, but not start. In my case, it will not turn over.....suggesting that my problem may lie elsewhere! This would prompt me to check my electrical circuits, cables,etc. Since I have lights, I would check my smaller lead running to the solenoid. With a volt meter...set on DC volts, closest to the voltage in question (in this case, 12 volts) ground the black lead of your volt meter to clean connection on engine or frame. Put the red lead on the solenoid terminal of the starter (the smaller of the two leads) Have an assistant turn key to starting mode. If you experience a voltage drop of 0.5 of a volt, but still dosnt activate solenoid, this would prompt me to check solenoid. To gain access to starter, remove heat shield. Before you procede with any procedure, disconnect the negative terminal of the battery. Make sure it does not come back into contact with terminal, as wire tends to have a "memory".

Its colder than hell right now...so havent had chance to follow up

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