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Trying to burp cooling system, but when car heats up the coolant shoots out of the radiator like a fountain.. Thermostat is removed, still heats up

I've had cooling system issues starting with my heater core being blocked. I flushed that and now the heat works just ok. I'm thinking there is air in the system so I am trying to bleed the air. I have the car on a steep incline, radiator cap off. I top off the system and as the car heats up the coolant shoot out of the top of the radiator. The thermostat seems to work but not as it should, it heats up to 230 before dropping down. So I took the thermostat out but the same thing still happens... Why is the system still heating up even though I have removed the thermostat? I'm thinking there may be another issue.. Any and all help welcome. Thanks Joe

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You are correct in your suspicions.
The thermostat blocks flow thru the radiator to help the engine warm up. The coolant still flows thru the block with the thermostat closed. If you remove the thermostat the cooling system should flow thru the radiator and stay below 160 degrees if the air temp is below 90.
If the thermostat is out and the engine is getting hot at idle speed, either the water pump has failed, or there is another blockage in the engine block.

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SOURCE: Help with cooling system!!

OK, firstly The basis that a cars cooling system runs on is very simple. The system is a pressurized cycle that moves the coolant around, along with the heat, and is slowest in the radiator to allow heat to escape. If the system is not pressurized then the cycle will not work properly and coolant will not move.
If there is air in the system this can create what would seem like a blockage. 'bleeding the system is not the answer especially if you are using the drain on the radiator. That drain is only for draining fluid not air.
If air blockage is the problem then what you do is open the system at the highest point possible. this is usually a hose at the top of the radiator or something, whatever is easiest. Then find the other hose attached to the radiator, lower, higher makes no difference. then simply squeeze the second hose. this will 'burp' the air out do this for a while until all that happens is fliud is pushed out repeatedly.
then reattach the top hose and top up the radiator, and go for a drive.
If this doesn't fix the problem then air is not the problem.

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SOURCE: i have a 99 cavalier that the temp and heat works

Think there is a blend door on this model.It may not be staying open at high speeds.Not sure if it would be actuated by vacume or electric.Well just my 2 cents.

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Testimonial: "have not thought about that but will that also cause the temp to start falling when u get over 50 and the heat to start coolin off thanks billy"

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AFTER REPLACING THERMOSTAT DONT STOP OVERHEATING.CHECK THE COOLANT FAN CLUTCH.WITH HOT ENGINE THE CLUTCH FAN SHOULD HAVE RESISTANCE WHEN TURNING IT WITH HAND.IF NOT FREEWHEEL.FAULTY CLUTCH FAN.HAVE TO REPLACE CLUTCH ON FAN.BAD CLUTCH ON COOLING FAN WILL CAUSE ENGINE OVERHEAT.WHEN CLUTCH FAN FREEWHEELS AT HIGH SPEEDS NOT PULLING ENOUGH AIR THROUGH RADIATOR CORES TO COOL DOWN ANTIFREEZE AND ENGINE.

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There's a common misconception that if part of a car's cooling system fails, the failing part can be replaced, the system closed up, fluid topped off, and the car will be ready to go. Many people have overheating problems, replace the offending component (thermostat, radiator, etc), top off the fluid, and then wonder why they still overheat.

This is because when the cooling system (which operates as a sealed system) is opened up and new components are installed, air bubbles become trapped in the system when it's reassembled. Coolant is added, but the bubbles displace some of the system's volume and become trapped in the cooling system.

The way to alleviate the problem is to burp the cooling system. It's easy to do, and only takes half an hour to an hour. It can be done at home very easily.

The first step is to reassemble the system after you replace whatever components are failing. Tighten all clamps, connect all hoses, and then fill the radiator or coolant holding tank, and fill the overflow reservoir to the indicated level (there's a small hose that typically runs from the radiator flange where the cap is positioned, over to the overflow container). Find the thermostat (trace the lower radiator hose back to the engine from the radiator - where it attaches to the engine is either exactly where, or very near, the location of the thermostat). Jack up the car so that the thermostat is pointed upward (the hose would be attaching at a downward angle). Now start the car.

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