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92 F350 7.3 Glow plug problem

I have changed the controller and all the glow plugs and they still dont work, the controller just sits there and clicks every second for about thirty seconds and then stops, any ideas

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Check the wiring harnesses under the valve covers. The heat damages them. Frd has connector kits to service them versus $600 harness. Some dealers know about kits, others do not.
Cycling says reays are working but glow plugs are not getting current. My guess.

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The glow plug controller has the ability to perform internal checks, an open or a short to ground on each of the glow plug circuits. If the glow plug controller senses a problem in a glow plug circuit, the glow plug on the affected cylinder will be disabled and the glow plug controller will send an error message to the engine control module (ECM). If this condition exists, the DTC will set.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
The glow plug controller detects that the glow plug control circuit is open, shorted to ground, or has more than 1 ohm of resistance.

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If DTC P064C is set, refer to DTC P064C.
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Engine running, observe the DTC information with a scan tool. DTCs P0671-P0678 should not set.
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Glow Plug System: Description and Operation
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The 6.0L diesel engine uses a glow plug system that preheats air in the combustion chamber to improve cold engine starting.
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- glow plug control module.
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- barometric pressure sensor (BARO sensor).
The glow plug monitor system is part of the On-Board Diagnostics II (OBD II) System.
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if you need connectors and terminals for the glow plug connections under the valve cover, Ford sells then so you don't need a whole $600 harness.

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Section 03-07B: Glow Plug System 1996 F-250, F-350, F-Super Duty Equipped with 7.3L Diesel Engines Workshop Manual
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Relay Operation
Install a DVOM on the glow plug feed side of the glow plug relay (large stud with two wires connected). Turn the ignition key to the ON position but do not attempt to start. Note the time in seconds from when the key is turned on and the glow plug relay energizes until the glow plug relay de-energizes. The glow plug relay makes a loud click noise which is easily heard when it energizes and de-energizes. The dome light will dim and the dash voltmeter will dip when the glow plugs are drawing current from the battery. Compare the times measured to the table (time will be affected by engine temperature, battery condition and vehicle altitude). The voltage at the glow plug feed terminal may vary from 9 to 12 volts depending upon battery condition.
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If battery voltage not present check for B+ at power supply terminal (terminal with single large wire). Power for glow plug power supply is supplied from starter relay through two fusible links at solenoid.
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Disconnect all of the glow plug/injector harness connectors from the valve cover gaskets. With the pigtail installed, measure glow plug resistance to ground (preferably B-). A resistance measurement of .1 to 6 ohms indicates a good glow plug.



Glow Plug Harness Continuity
Measure for continuity from the connector harness to the glow plug feed terminal on the glow plug relay. Resistance should be less than 5 ohms.
Incorrect measurements will result if all glow plug/injector connectors to valve cover are not disconnected.

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Glow Plug Relay The glow plug relay (12A343) has a plastic base and two mounting bolts. It is operated by the powertrain control module (PCM) (12A650) which senses engine oil temperature, PCM voltage and barometric pressure. When the engine oil temperature or the barometric pressure is low, the PCM activates the glow plug relay and the glow plugs. If the PCM voltage is too high, the powertrain control module deactivates the glow plug relay and the glow plugs immediately energize for a shorter duration, decreasing the modulation of the duty cycle.
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Glow Plug Removal
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Installation
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Glow Plug Control Glow plugs are used to warm the cylinders to improve cold-engine starting. The PCM uses the engine oil temperature (EOT) sensor and barometric pressure (BARO) sensor to determine how long the glow plugs will be on. The PCM energizes the glow plugs longer if the engine is very cold or if the barometric pressure is low at high altitudes.
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  1. The PCM energizes the glow plugs immediately after the ignition is placed in the ON position.
  1. The PCM then determines how long glow plugs will be on based on EOT sensor and the BARO sensor. The required time to warm up the cylinder decreases the engine oil temperature and barometric pressure increases at low altitudes.
Glow Plug Lamp Control The glow plug lamp (GPL) signal controls the WAIT TO START light located on the instrument panel. This light is used to indicate when to start the engine. The cylinders are being warmed by the glow plugs during and after this light is lit. The PCM energizes the glow plug lamp longer if the engine is very cold or if the barometric pressure is low.
When the GPL signal is brought low, the "Wait to Start" lamp is turned on.
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The PCM determines the glow plug lamp activation time based on engine oil temperature, barometric pressure and battery voltage.
  1. PCM turns off the WAIT TO START light.
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1992 F-350 Dsl - very hard to start when cool


are you using cold temperature engine oil!
if not, try changing oil for cold temperature!

hard starting happens due to the cold temperature, air pressure is low during this season so compression inside the engine is low resulting to hard starting!

make sure that all your glow plugs are working.

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How do i change glow plugs


If you are sure the glow plug relay and timer, which looks like a starter relay sitting on the intake manifold, are good. The glow plugs are located under the rocker arm covers between each injector. I would recommend purchasing new rocker cover gaskets, which incorporate the wiring harnesses for both glow plugs and injectors. They can be reused, but they will generally start to leak oil before long. The injectors are pretty easy to identify, they're the big square things with the electrical plug. the glow plugs have a single wire running to them. if I can recall they require a 10mm hex. hope this helps.

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