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How can depressing the clutch engage the starter ?

The truck starts with the clutch, when the ignition is on. When you push the clutch in, the starter engages... but sounds horrible and grinds, like it's dragging. The starter is a good one & less than a year old. I changed the Clutch Safety Switch and the ignition switch on the column. Same thing, the starter engages as soon as the clutch safety switch is depressed, when the key is on.

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    manuelrodriguez Apr 17, 2015

    I have right at 5 decades of being a mechanic not a parts changer but a real mechanic and I just witness my friends 1999 s10 start with key on and just pressing on clutch, it also engages each time we press the clutch after it has started up. I haven't got the time to check it out today, but my thought is as someone mention already that somewhere in the starter and safety system a wire has frayed or melted to another. I moved the wiring around under dash to see if it my be rubbing on clutch pedal itself. The things is if it were that sort of problem chevy would have to have broken the ground instead of feed wire to activated safety switch and that would be weird. If I get the chance to work on this problem I will be glad to post what I find, with a schematic it should not be to hard to find the problem.

  • manuelrodriguez
    manuelrodriguez Apr 17, 2015

    But if anyone has run across this problem and knows the solution I would be grateful to know what you found and possibly save me some time.

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It sounds like current is feeding into the start wire off the switch. Trace the wire from the clutch switch to the ignition switch connector. Does the wire look good? Examine closely the connector and see if you see a burnt terminal, or some broken plastic in the connector, some way for the start wire to pick up current. If you see nothing wrong, IDK, probably will need a shop to chase the wiring down and find it. I don't know if a bad starter relay (stuck on) could do that, likely not if it only happens when you depress clutch and have clutch switch on.
Good luck.

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    Billy Post Jan 03, 2013

    I chased the wiring back from the clutch safety switch to the Prestige auto alarm I installed 7 years ago... then, before going any further, I got in the truck and set the alarm to see if the starter would still engage with the 'kill' feature of the alarm system. It would not start, and afterwards, would no longer start with the clutch switch. Probablya start relay malfunction for the alarm sytem. (It was very cold, in the teens, the morning this began), Everything's working fine now, & back to normal now..

  • montehammons Jan 03, 2013

    Aha! Sounds good, then. Glad you found it.

  • Billy Post
    Billy Post Jan 03, 2013

    ...me too! Noone seemed to know about this one, so, Thank You montehammons.

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Check under dash and make sure no wires are being pinched when clutch is depressed

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SOURCE: neutral safety switch

most gm nuet safety is yellow and purple .....out of ignition switch is a big yellow wire that is crank out and input to nuet saf switch......out of nuet switch is color purple that goes strieght to start selenoid.....purple wire also goes to the crank fuse 5amp.. in the fuse box under dash... this fuse goes to the pcm main computer.. same for auto and clutch

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So we don/t get ahead of ourselves, are you positive that it is the starter you are hearing? Often times the flywheel/ring gear, can become loose due to not tightening the mounting bolts for the torque converter enough or the mounting bolts for the flywheel/ring gear itself. Both of these situations will give off a sound similar to that of a starter engaging as the engine is running. Also you'll want to check and make sure that the starter itself is not coming loose from not tightening the mounting bolts correctly. As far as a starter trying to engage on any vehicle except a ford product which utilizes an entirely different type of solenoid, I've never heard that complaint in 4 decades. Best bet is to take a good look around. I'm not saying that this cannot happen, but it would have to be contributed to a very worn or frayed harness somewhere in the starting circuit.Thank you, please let me know what you find I'm intrigued with this problem.Dana

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check alternator output at the alt and at battery also put a test light on the starter solenoid at the little wire on solenoid see if it lights up when turn key ? possible positive or negative cables have good ohm checks but not carrying enough current ?

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What vehicle make / model / engine size are you working on. That will help to diagnose problem.
I assume your battery has power? Is your security light on or flashing in the instrument cluster with ignition on? Thanks, Mike

Posted on Jun 14, 2011

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