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There is no current running to the command wire to the solenoid 2005 caravan

The starter relay does work but the ignition command wire going to the solenoid has no current.

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SOURCE: 1990 300zx solenoid/starter relay

I would go for the starter motor personally first, as thats the part that cranks the engine over :)

that gets power, then it starts turning the flywheel, the starter motor also keeps the engine running inbetween the engines power strokes while its running.

Go for the starter relay & the starter motor :)

Thanks.

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There is a fuse from the ignition switch. There is also a fusible link. Below is a wiring diagram that you can look at and it has the wire colors as well. This I hope will help you narrow down your power loss to the solenoid. If you need anymore wiring diagrams for your vehicle I have them all and you are free to email me at csautomotivecars@att.net with what you need. No cost, Being nice cause it's Sunday....LOL Anyway, I hope this helps you and good luck. Here's your diagram


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Trouble-shooting your Isuzu starter..


Basic operation of a starter:
Your engine's starter motor is an electrical motor that is used to rotate the engine in order to get it to fire up. This motor draws a large amont of current from the battery (in the order of 70 Amps and up). In order to supply power to the starter a solenoid is used, it acts as a switch between the battery and the starter motor. This solenoid also engages the starter gear with the engine's flywheel and disengages it once the engine is started. Because the circuit for the solenoid also draws a heavy current a further relay is needed to control it.
The diagram below shows the electrical layout of the starting system.
  • i : Battery
  • ii : Starter relay(located in the relay box in the engine compartment)
  • iii : Starter solenoid
  • iv : Starter incorporating solenoid and motor.
  • v : Engine
  • vi : Battery earth cable
  • vii : Engine earth cable
  • viii : Ignition fuse
  • ix : Starter fuse
  • x : Solenoid to starter supply cable
  • xi : Ignition switch
  • xii : Starter motor
When the ignition(xi) is turned it supplies power from the battery through fuse (viii) to the starter relay(ii).
The starter relay activates and supplies power to the starter solenoid(iii) via fuse (ix)
The starter solenoid activates and connects power from the battery to the starter via a short cable(x) between the solenoid and starter motor. This allows the starter motor to turn.

General trouble shooting.
Turn the ignition off.
1/ First you need to check that the fuses are intact.
Keep the ignition off. Place the vehicle in Neutral. Chock the wheels and engage the parking brake.
2/ To prove the starter motor, connect power from the battery positive to the cable (x). This must be done with jumper cables. Touch the jumper cable to the connector on the back of the solenoid where cable (x) connects. Take care not to short circuit the jumper cable to the engine or vehicle body. It can be a tight fit and might not always be possible. If you hear the starter motor spin then it is working along with the engine earth cable. If not, connect the negative lead of the jumper cable between the battery and the starter motor body or any other bare piece of metal on the engine and put the positive lead on cable (x) again. If the starter motor does not spin it needs to come out for repair/replacement. If it spins check both the battery earth cable and engine earth cable and repair where nescasary.
3/ Once the starter motor has been proved move on to the solenoid. Remove the thin wire from the solenoid. Using a small piece of wire, connect battery positive to the connector where you just took off the wire. The solenoid should kick in and the starter motor will turn the engine. If the solenoid does not kick in, remove the starter for repair/replacement of the solenoid. If the solenoid kicks in then replace the starter relay.

If the starting circuit still does not operate the fault will be in the wiring. This needs reasonable expertise and if you dont have a voltmeter handy is not advised.
Bear in mind on automatic transmission vehicles there is an additional switch (Mode switch) wired in between the ignition switch and the starter relay. This switch is on the transmission itself and if faulty will not allow the starter to operate even if steps 1 to 3 were successfull. The same goes for the anti theft/immobiliser system.

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The following is specifically for Isuzu Trooper and Rodeo :
  • i : Battery
  • ii : Starter relay(located in the relay fuse box in the engine compartment designated X-17)
  • iii : Starter solenoid
  • iv : Starter incorporating solenoid and motor.
  • v : Engine
  • vi : Battery earth cable
  • vii : Engine earth cable
  • viii : 10A Starter fuse C-1(Fuse box: LH footwell on LHD vehicle, RH dash on RHD vehicle)
  • x : Solenoid to starter supply cable
  • xi : Ignition switch
  • xii : Starter motor
  • xiii : 80A Main fusible link FL-1(Relay fuse box)
  • xiv : 50 A Key SW fusible link FL-2(relay fuse box)
  • xv : Mode switch(A/T only - mounted on the side of the transmission) and for 6 cylinder manual transmission engines this is the clutch start switch mounted on the clutch pedal.
  • xvi : Anti theft system
  • B2 : B2 on ignition sitch
  • ST : ST on ignition switch
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2005 starter wiring diagrams from ignition switch to starter soliniod


The ignition switch does not go to the starter solenoid . Pin 87 at the starter relay sends B+ voltage to the starter relay . Do you know what a starter relay is an how it works ? The ignition switch is an input to the PCM - engine computer . When the PCM sees this B+ voltage from the switch it energizes the starter relay sending B+ voltage to the starter solenoid . http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html free wiring diagrams !

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For ranger new starter wont stop running


Starter Relay The starter motor solenoid relay switch (11450) consists of a pull-in coil, a contact disc, and two terminal contacts. Battery voltage is always present at the relay positive terminal. When the ignition switch (11572) is in the START position, the pull-in coil is activated and pulls the contact disc into contact with both terminal contacts. This allows battery current to pass through the starter motor solenoid relay switch to the starter solenoid (11390). The starter solenoid is deactivated when the ignition switch is in the RUN or OFF position.
Maybe something is hooked up wrong ! Or the starter relay is bad
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Wont crank. New Battery, ignition switch good. starter relay "clicks" when ignition switch turned.when the 2 big terminals on starter relay are jumpered, the starter turns normally. is the relay bad?


Hi:
Sounds to me like you've got it correct. The contacts in the relay have probably arc'd and are not working. Fortunately, relays are readily available.

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I just have a new starter but the car wont crank


it has a good chance to being the starter relay but it also may be a break in the power line to the starter or the solenoid on the side of the starter if you replaced the starter only or not or a dead battery or check your fuses to you ignition and your relays aswell there are many possibilities that could come in to play just do a elimination start from the starter itself and check everything that in between til you get ot the battery and if witch should be depending on what kind of vehicle you have starter solenoid ground wire and positive wire going to starter relay aswell as other wires tying in to go to the positioning ignition switch that could be the problem to, it's commonly mounted down but your foot pedals on the top of the steering column and check your fuses hopefully you could try these or use any of this imformation to help you with your problem well good luck..

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2001 mustang gt,all access. work fully charged


I would suspect the starter solenoid has failed.

A starter solenoid (or starter relay) is the part of an automobile which relays a large electric current to the starter motor, which in turn sets the engine in motion. In many vehicles the solenoid also engages the starter pinion with the ring gear of the engine.

The starter solenoid receives a large electric current from the car battery and a small electric current from the ignition switch. When the ignition switch is turned on, a small electric current is sent to the starter solenoid. This causes the starter solenoid to close a pair of heavy contacts, thus relaying a large electric current to the starter motor, which in turn sets the engine in motion. The starter motor is an electric motor that initiates piston motion in a car's internal combustion engine before it can power itself.

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98 dodge caravan won't star intermittenty


1. Check the Battery Terminal Post connections. Use a Battery Brush to clean (both the terminal post as well as the connecting rings) and make sure they are tight. If one is already loose dirty (not shiny metal) then it could cause intermitten non-starts.
2. Check the Starter Relay located in the IPM (fuse box) located in the engine compartment. The cover has the what relay is what. Relays that are the same can be switched and the functions checked. For example: the Rear Blower Relay is (should be the same as the Starter Relay. If the Rear Blower works (all the time) switch the Rear Blower Relay and Starter Relay. Check the Rear Blower several times (on and off). Check the Starter several times (on and off). If the Rear Blower works only intermittently and the Starter works all the time now, replace the bad relay. Don't switch back until you obtain a new relay.
3. I could also be the connections to the Starter Solenoid that have become loose or corroded.
4. It could also be the Starter Solenoid or the Starter Motor. If it is the Solenoid: with a partner-short jump (with a short-well insulated wire) the positive connection from the solenoid (small cylindrical body) to the starter body (large cylindrical body while your part turns the ignition to start. If it starts right-up, then the solenoid is bad.
5. You cannot (normaly) replace just the solenoid. Purchase a new or remanufactured Starter (which comes complete with the Solenoid) and replace the old Starter.
Good Luck and let me know if this worked or if you have additional information to clarify or need additional information.

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I have a starting problem problem with my 2006 dodge durango. this problem does not happen at all attempts to start but when it happens i get a clicking sound and have toget the truck boost started. i had...


It sounds like your starter solenoid (relay) is failing. The clicking is a classic symptom. It's time to have it replaced.

A starter solenoid (or starter relay) is the part of an automobile which relays a large electric current to the starter motor, which in turn sets the engine in motion .In many vehicles the solenoid also engages the starter pinion with the ring gear of the engine.

The starter solenoid receives a large electric current from the car battery and a small electric current from the ignition switch. When the ignition switch is turned on, a small electric current is sent to the starter solenoid. This causes the starter solenoid to close a pair of heavy contacts, thus relaying a large electric current to the starter motor, which in turn sets the engine in motion. The starter motor is an electric motor that initiates piston motion in a car's internal combustion engine before it can power itself.

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Blown fuse - What's it protect???


in what country ?
My '89 2.3 liter Isuzu pickup
NO TRANSMISSION STATED (auto or stick)?
fuse are to prevent FIRES
ever see a wire burn red hot and then melt a fuel line (ugly *****)
fuses on cars with fuel are serious.!
lesson 2 is There are not 1 fuse for every load in a car, or you'd have 100s fuses.
lesson 3, the power distribution is a tree with branches fused.
same deal on cars, trains, boats and planes.
for the same reasons
my wild guess1
you work with no 89 2.3 liter schematic the proceed to hack it and find fuses blow. sure.

so my guess 2 is you bypassed the starter solenoid ?
and overload that circuit.!
the relay has purpose, its a current buffer (lesson4)
the reason car didnt crank
is the relay
the blk/white wire uses like 8amp
current is buffered by the relay to 30 times less.
This less current save you from burning up and expensive
ignition switch, (some are $100)
that 5 relay saves 100 bucks. and repeats.
the relay also us for logic
the USA laws mandate a park /in gear lock out
so the relay did that, at blk-pink wire.
now defeated. by you.
try a new relay (if hacking is a goal)
and put switch to ground (pin1,) and pin2 of switch to
brown -red wire on new relay. bam starter fixed
and no burn burned up ignition swithes or fuses.
see fuse 12 below. 10amps
that fuse can not run a solenoid direct, the relay must be working.
the starter solenoid uses a 60amp fuse. blk wire (main).



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