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TRANSMISSION IS IN 4TH GEAR WITH TCC ENGAGED AND THE ECM HAS DETECTED EXCESSIVE SLIPPAGE WHEN COMPARING THE INPUT SHAFT SPEED TO THE OUTPUT SHAFT SPEED

NEED LOCATION OF TRANSMISSION CONTROL SOLENOID

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Engine code 894


DTC P0894 Transmission Component Slipping
DTC P0894Circuit Description with 4L80-E / 4L85-E Automatic Transmission The powertrain control module monitors the engine speed and the transmission output shaft speed. The PCM calculates turbine shaft speed and torque converter clutch (TCC) slip speed by using inputs from the automatic transmission input shaft speed sensor, automatic transmission output shaft speed sensor, and other transmission components. The forward clutch housing is used as the AT ISS rotor. Whenever the TCC is engaged, engine speed and turbine speed will closely match, indicating low TCC slip speed. In D3, with the TCC engaged, calculated transmission component slip can only occur in the torque converter. In D4 OVERDRIVE, with the TCC engaged, transmission component slip can occur in the TCC or the fourth clutch assembly. If the PCM detects an excessive TCC slip speed in D4 OVERDRIVE, when the TCC should be engaged, then DTC P0894 sets. DTC P0894 is a type C DTC. For California emissions vehicles, DTC P0894 is a type B DTC.DTC Descriptor This diagnostic procedure supports the following DTC: DTC No MAF sensor DTC P0101, P0102 or P0103. No MAP sensor DTC P0106, P0107 or P0108. No TP sensor DTC P0120 or P0220. No VSS DTC P0502 or P0503. No ISS DTC P0716 or P0717. No TCC Stuck Off DTC P0741. No TCC Stuck On DTC P0742. No 1-2 SS valve DTC P0751, P0752 or P0753. No 2-3 SS valve DTC P0756, P0757 or P0758. No TFP manual valve position switch DTC P1810. No TCC PWM solenoid valve DTC P2761. The throttle angle is 10-100 percent. Engine speed is 1,250-5,000 RPM. The TFT is Vehicle speed is TFP manual valve position switch indicates D4. The TCC is commanded ON for 0.04 second or greater. TCC is locked ON for greater than 0.1 second. Commanded The PCM detects slip in the torque converter clutch and/or the fourth gear clutch pack with the TCC in an apply or locked mode. DTC P0894 sets during the second consecutive trip when one of the following conditions occur: The TCC slip speed is 100-550 for 10 seconds for three occurrences.The TCC slip speed is 100-550 for 10 seconds, the PCM commands maximum line pressure. The TCC slip speed is 100-550 for 12.5 seconds, the PCM commands the TCC Off for 2 seconds. The TCC slip speed is 100-550 for 15 sec For California emission equipped vehicles, the PCM illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp during the second consecutive trip in which the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met. For Federal emission equipped vehicles, the MIL is not illuminated. The PCM commands maximum line pressure. The PCM inhibits the TCC engagement. The PCM freezes transmission adaptive functions. The PCM records the operating conditions when the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met. The PCM stores this information as Freeze Frame, California only, and Failure Records, California and Federal. The PCM stores the DTC P0894 in PCM history during the second consecutive trip, California, or the first trip, Federal, in which the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met. For California emissions, the PCM turns OFF the MIL during the third consecutive trip in which the diagnostic test runs and passes. A scan tool can clear the MIL/DTC. For California emissions, the PCM clears the DTC from PCM history if the vehicle completes 40 warm-up cycles without an emission related diagnostic fault occurring. For Federal emissions, the PCM clears the DTC from PCM history if the vehicle completes 40 warm-up cycles without a non-emission related diagnostic fault occurring. The PCM cancels the DTC default actions when the fault no longer exists and the ignition switch is OFF long enough in order to power down the PCM. A TFP manual valve position switch malfunction can set DTC P0894. A mechanical failure of the shift solenoids or TCC PWM solenoid valve can set DTC P0894. Internal transmission failures can result in a DTC P0894. Sticking or contaminated shift valves may cause intermittent slipping in D4. DTC P0894 defaults to an elevated line pressure condition which may result in partial TCC apply. This may produce an idle surge that could stall the engine. The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table. 3. This step tests the indicated range signal to the actual selected range. A faulty TFP manual valve position switch can set a DTC P0894. 4. This step tests for excessive TCC slip speed while in a commanded TCC lock-up state and in fourth gear; and confirms that the fault is present. 5. This step tests for excessive TCC slip speed while in a commanded TCC lock-up state and in third gear. 6. This step tests for a sticking TCC shift valve. 7. This step tests for proper transmission line pressure.

Apr 18, 2014 | 2005 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4WD

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Speed sensor


Speedometer sensor measures axle(driveshaft) speed for your speedometer gauge.
Input speed sensor measures the speed of the input shaft of the transmission.
The output speed sensor measures the output shaft, the ECM compares these two signals to determine the amount of clutch slippage and adjusts parameters accordingly for optimal operation.

Feb 02, 2014 | 2002 Kia Sedona

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I have a 1999 blazer I pulled the code p1870 if I change the control solenoid could that fix the problem?


Here is the definition of the code.
I doubt replacing an electrical component would do it.

P1870 CHEVROLET Description Transmission is in 4th gear with Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) engaged and the Engine Control Moduel (ECM) has detected excessive slippage when comparing the input shaft speed to the output shaft speed
Read more: http://engine-codes.com/p1870_chevrolet.html#ixzz26gqhKHvr

Sep 15, 2012 | Cars & Trucks

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I have a code p1870 for an astro 97' how do i fix?


P1870 CHEVROLET Description Transmission is in 4th gear with Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) engaged and the Engine Control Moduel (ECM) has detected excessive slippage when comparing the input shaft speed to the output shaft speed Causes could include fluid problems and damaged clutches.

Read more: http://engine-codes.com/p1870_chevrolet.html#ixzz21kpJ6kDL

Jul 26, 2012 | 1997 Chevrolet Astro

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P0734


Description of fault code P0734:

This code is set if the value of input shaft speed is not equal to the value of the output shaft, when multiplied by the 4th gear ratio, while the transaxle is engaged in 4th gear. This malfunction is mainly caused by mechanical troubles such as control valve sticking or solenoid valve malfuctioning rather than an electrical issue.

From experience (sorry) you will end up replacing the transmission. This code usually indicates an internal mechanical failure.

Dec 28, 2010 | 2003 Hyundai Accent

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1st 2nd 3rd gear whining noise but stops in 4th and so on,


this would be an internal bearing inside the gearbox on the input shaft......you have the shft coming in form the engine, and the input shaft houses 1,2, 3rd and 4th gears.....the 5th gear is located on an intermediate shaft.....and then you have the output shaft...now if you had said all gears i would have said output shaft bearing......and if you had said 5th gear only, then this would be the intermedaite gear.....

but you are only saying 1,2 and 3......why its not happening in fourth is that the gear ratios that the shafts turn in correlation to thre gearing changes as you get to 4, like on a 10 speed bicycle but in 4th it is a 1:1 ratio, so no excessive loads on the shafts are noticeable....

This will require a transmission overhaul......

Aug 26, 2010 | Ford Mustang Cars & Trucks

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Transmission slipping. does not appear to be shifting properly. replaced ecm. got tcm from jeep grand cherokee same engine (4.7L). notice significant burning/smoke after driving exhaust manifold. not...


U are going to need to overhaul the transmission here, the smoke is the trans overheating from excessive slippage i suspect.code for wrong gear ratio's mean the input and output shaft speed are out of symc for the gear the trans is in, the 3rd or 4th gear is the usual codes, this sometimes is caused by defective speed sensors but most times the trans is slipping and the TCM detects that and sets a code

Dec 10, 2009 | 2001 Dodge Durango

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Check engine light with following codes p 1529 p0720 p0715


P1529 indicates that your TCM asked the ECM to turn on the check engine lamp.

The range switch and the output speed sensors are the items that are abnormally affecting the operation of the transmission. The diagnostic logic in your computer can distinguish these issues from one another, so you'll definitely want to do both. You have no diagnostic code for the input speed sensor (P0715) listed, so I have made no recommendation to replace it. In my opinion, it's not a labor-intensive repair, so I wouldn't recommend replacing it unless you have reason to believe it's bad.

DTC - P0720 (OUTPUT SHAFT SPEED SENSOR SYSTEM)
Code No. P0720 Output shaft speed sensor system
If the output from the output shaft speed sensor is continuously 50% lower than the vehicle speed for 1 second or more while driving in 3rd or 4th gear at a speed of 30 km/h or more, it is judged to be an open circuit or short-circuit in the output shaft speed sensor and diagnostic trouble code No. P0720 is output. If diagnostic trouble code No. P0720 is output four times, the transmission is locked into 3rd gear or 2rid gear as a fail-safe measure.
Probable cause
Malfunction of the output shaft speed sensor
Malfunction of the transfer drive gear or driven gear
Malfunction of connector
Malfunction of the TCM

DTC - P0715 (INPUT SHAFT SPEED SENSOR SYSTEM)
Code No. P0715 input shaft speed sensor system
If no output pulse is detected from the input shaft speed sensor for 1 second or more while driving in 3rd or 4th gear at a speed of 30 km/h (19 mph) or more, it is judged to be an open circuit or short-circuit in the input shaft speed sensor and diagnostic trouble code No. P0715 is output. If diagnostic trouble code P0715 is output four times, the transaxle is locked into 3rd gear or 2nd gear as a fail-safe measure.
Probable cause
Malfunction of the input shaft speed sensor
Malfunction of the underdrive clutch retainer
Malfunction of connector
Malfunction of the TCM

Is needed replace.

Nov 04, 2009 | 2001 Hyundai Elantra

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Transmission


I recently ran into this same problem. My truck has 125,000 miles. The service engine light would come on from time to time. I did as you and got a P1870 code.

P1870
The transmission is in 4th gear with the TCC (torque converter clutch) engaged and the ECM has detected excessive slippage when comparing the input shaft speed to the output shaft speed.

Probable causes
  1. Towing a trailer.
  2. Transmission fluid level.
  3. Internal transmission failure.
In my particular case a fluid and filter change solved the problem. I do plan on dropping by the trans shop and let them do a complete service in the near future. (Fluid, filter, band adjust, and check pressure)

Good Luck.
Bob

Jun 06, 2008 | 2000 GMC Sonoma Extended Cab

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GM service engine code P1870/2000 GMC Sonoma 2.2 cylinder


you jave a biggie here.
here is some info
CIRCUIT DESCRIPTION
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) monitors the difference between engine speed and transmission output speed. In D3 drive range with the TCC engaged, the engine speed should closely match the transmission output speed. In D4 drive range, with the TCC engaged, the TCC slip speed should be -20 to +60 RPM .

When the PCM detects excessive TCC slip when the TCC should be engaged, then DTC P1870 sets. DTC P1870 is a type B DTC.

CONDITIONS FOR RUNNING THE DTC
  • No TP sensor DTCs P0122 or P0123.
  • No VSS assembly DTCs P0502 or P0503.
  • No TCC solenoid valve DTC P0740.
  • No 1-2 SS valve DTC P0753.
  • No 2-3 SS valve DTC P0758.
  • No 3-2 SS valve assembly DTC P0785.
  • No TCC PWM solenoid valve DTC P1860.
  • The engine is not in fuel cutoff.
  • The engine torque is 40-400 lb ft .
  • The TP angle is 12-50% .
  • The vehicle speed is 56-112 km/h (35-70 mph ).
  • The speed ratio is 0.64-0.95 (the speed ratio is the engine speed divided by the transmission output speed).
  • The engine speed is 1500-3500 RPM .
  • The gear range is D4.
  • The commanded gear is not 1st gear
  • The TFT is between 20-130°C (68-266°F) .
  • The shift solenoid performance diagnostic counters are zero.

May 16, 2008 | 2000 GMC Sonoma Extended Cab

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