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LOUD TICKING NOISE IN ENGINE AFTER INTAKE REPAIR

MY NAME IS CHRIS AND I'M A MECHANIC. i JUST REPLACED THE UPPER AND LOWER INTAKE MANIFOLD GASKETS IN A 1998 BONNEVILLE 3.8L ENGINE. AFTER THE REPAIR I STARTED TO ENGINE. IT STARTED FUN BUT IT RUNS ROUGH INTERMITTENTLY AND MAKES A LOUD INTERMITTENT TICKING OR KNOCKING NOISE. PLEASE HELP!!! I'M AFRAID ITS DEBRIS IN THE ENGINE AND THE ENGINE IS NOW DAMAGED???

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  • highrev1 Apr 19, 2009

    I have a 99 olds 88 3.8 76k miles. I just had the intake plenum and lower intake gaskets replaced because they were leaking coolant into the cylinders and burning it. I have heard it is a common problem with these engines. Picked the car up from the shop and it ran just fine. 60 miles later, the motor is ticking and I was out of town. Had no option but to drive it home. A couple minutes on the highway and the ticking goes away. 1 hour stop for lunch, then it's ticking again. Back home, 3 hours go by, start the engine again... no ticking. I have the feeling when I start it in the morning, it will be ticking again. I am not sure what to do. I am going to change out the spark plugs and change the oil in the morning. If that doesn't cure it, I guess it will go back to the shop with a lot of questions. I really don't want to pay for a top end rebuild. Has anyone had any luck with Slick50 or similar products?

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    bob collins May 11, 2010

    Is it a high pitch or low pitch?

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A Vacuum Leak at Manifold would show up as the Roughness Also its getting a Diff reading at MAF and MAP give it a while to get Friendly with itself, then Freak out LoL Hoping this Little Bit Helps I have had A Bunch of Scarry Startup Initional runs in my years and Run Time Took Care of them.
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How long have you ran the engine ? I know that they will run rough and sometimes make strange noises for a few secounds or a little bit untill everything get oiled up again. I would make sure all the push rods are back in the right place and that all the lifters are tight.

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3.8L Engine (most common) Upper Intake Manifold To Remove:
  1. Drain the cooling system.
  2. Remove or disconnect the following:
    • Negative battery cable.
    • Fuel injector sight shield.
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  7. Remove or disconnect the following:
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Upper intake manifold bolt torque sequence (3.8L engine) gm-03-38-530.gif

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  3. Install or connect the following:
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  4. Install the electrical connector to the temperature sensor.
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  7. Install the supercharger.
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  5. Detach the engine coolant temperature sensor wiring harness from the sensor.
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To install:


0900c15280269f1b.jpg enlarge_icon.gifenlarge_tooltip.gif Fig. Lower intake manifold bolt torque sequence-3.8L (VIN K) engine
  1. Clean all parts well with degreaser, especially the gasket seal surfaces on the upper and lower manifold pieces and between the lower manifold and the cylinder heads..
  2. Install new gaskets to the cylinder heads and new seals to the engine block. Carefully lower the manifold into place. Apply thread-locking compound to the bolt threads. Make sure to install the two hidden bolts in the lower intake manifold. Hand start all bolts, then torque evenly to 11 ft. lbs. (15 Nm). Follow the toque sequence, starting in the center, then working outwards in a circle.
  3. Install the remaining components in the reverse order of the removal process.

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  2. On 3.8L (VIN 1) engines, remove the supercharger assembly. Please see the procedure in this section.
  3. Tag for identification, then remove the right side spark plug wires.
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0900c15280269f1c.jpg enlarge_icon.gifenlarge_tooltip.gif Fig. Upper intake manifold and bolt torque sequence-3.8L (VIN K) engine
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  3. Install the remaining components in the reverse order of the removal process.

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