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Lincoln won't start in freezing weather!

My 1991 Lincoln Towncar has, for the second time, not started in freezing weather. The first time it happened it was 17 degrees outside. The next day it was about 55 degrees outside and she fired right up! I had tried to start it several times in between this period to no avail. So I'm thinking the started is 'frozen'? This morning it was 20 degrees and once again, no start. All I'm getting is a 'click', presumeably from the soleoid. Do old starters freeze??? HELP!!!!

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  • cruelshoes30 Jan 14, 2009

    ok...the battery is new and so is the alternator....have tried the hammer thing before and this morning but it doesn't help..

  • cruelshoes30 Jan 14, 2009

    a frozen fuel line???!!! my starter won't turn over. are u an idiot?

  • cruelshoes30 Jan 14, 2009

    seems to be the general concensus...starter bad, hit with a hammer. Thanks guys, except for the dude who told me my fuel line was frozen. Did you even read the problem?

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Chances are its your battery.
My area of expertise is actually HVAC equipment, but I have dealt with many minor carr issues over the years, including batteries.

Batteries have ratings called "Cold cranking amps" cheaper, or weaker batteries lack the power to turn the starter, especially in cold conditions.

You can have the local Autozone or Advanced auto run a free check on the battery to see if it is holding the proper charge as rated on the battery.

I saw no other responses to your problem here, so I figured it best to provide this info I hope it helps.

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    Danny Clark Jan 14, 2009

    Ahhh.... now there are enough responses to fill a book...... OK, back to Airconditioners LOL

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The battery has chilled, it will need to be warmed up. Put it on charge for about an hour or so, then try again.

The temperature of the electrolyte, is critical to the efficiency of the Electrolytic process used by the battery to produce power. A cold battery is the No. 1 cause of winter starting problems.


Check all of the battery terminals and cables and check the wires on the starter/selonoid, start from the battery and follow the cable out and check all conections , clean and tighten them and if it still does it the starter/selonoid is bad and needs replacement

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An Old trick SMACK Starter With A Hammer try a few times if it starts Your starter IS Bad and IF Subjected to water then 20 deg air they can Freez I have towed cars in put on rack Heated starter with Troch and they started right up the Hammer trick May sooe CRUDE but for over 25 yrs its Worked 100 times

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If it's that cold your fuel line could be frozen. If this is the case, I would suggest parking your car in the garage until the lines thaw ans putting water remover (not fuel conditioner) in the tank. Also, check the anti-freeze level. This won't revent an engine from turning over, it keeps your block from cracking as antifreeze freezes at lower temperatures than water.

I used a bottle of HEET in the gas tank and filled up the Antifreeze levels.
It might have been that or the warmer weather but it started right up!

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    Antonio Buenafe Jr. Jan 14, 2009

    being out of anti-freeze wont keep the car from starting.first thing,
    how your oil, is it dirty and thick?, if its thick, then the engine
    cant turn over too fast in cold weather, and also how many amps your
    battery got?, a low cold cranking battery wont let the engine turn over
    too fast in cold weather.

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Hi
Normally, when you start a car, you turn the key, you hear a little whirr, whirr, whirr, and then the engine fires up and runs. 
What happens when you turn the key? If it grinds and whines and sounds a little like a siren, or else doesn't do ANYTHING or just clicks a few times, THEN FINALLY STARTS OK, and over time needs more and more tries with the key, the starter is going out. Get it replaced before it strands you. If it does nothing but click, or nothing, and doesn't start after turning the key multiple times, it's usually a dead battery or just corrosion on the battery connections. A dead battery caused usually by the leaving the lights or radio on overnight. You can check them, the switches will still be on. If your battery has top posts, you can pull the cable connections and be sure they are shiny inside and out, scraping them with a key, a screwdriver, knife, or the correct tool, a $2.50 battery terminal brush from WalMart or the parts store, reconnect them, and get a jump start and try again. Also, a dead battery can be caused by a worn-out alternator failing to charge it, but this would have been signalled by the "Battery" or "Alternator", etc., warning light staying on on the dash all the time while the car was running, and surely you would have noticed that. If the electrical charging system warning light wasn't staying on all the time while the engine was running, and the TOP battery and cable connections (side posts don't corrode much) have been cleaned, and you jumped it off and it STILL was dead the next time, the problem is probably a bad battery.



 If the car goes whirr, whirr, whirr when you turn the key but just won't "catch" and keep running, it is usually because of being out of gas or needing a tuneup or, if the car is out in sub-freezing weather, having water in the gas line frozen and blocking it. If the weather is sub-freezing, you may have to tow it to a warm garage to thaw the water in the gas line, drain the line, change the gas filter and try again. Even in warm weather, it's possible to get water in the tank from a contaminated gas station, it happened to me once, about five hours of driving after I bought gas at a different station.

You can get brief, concise, step-by-step steps to diagnose any engine's failure to start in the front of any Haynes auto repair manual under "Troubleshooting", available at most auto parts stores for about $16, or online by searching on Yahoo under "auto repair manuals". The most important and basic first steps are pretty universal. If you can't find the manual for your model, any similar model will have the same information.

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    Make sure you are using winter diesel. If not, use an additive.
    Replace the fuel filter.
    Drain the in-line fuel water trap.
    Get your heater plugs checked to make sure they are working correctly.
    Keep your fuel tank filled. This reduces moisture that can freeze in your fuel lines well before your diesel waxes up.

    A cold engine requires more power to turn over. 
    Cold fuel needs more pump pressure, more pre-heat and a good rate of engine cranking speed to efficiently ignite. Remember, there is no spark plug on a diesel engine. Ignition relies purely on the heat generated by compressing misted fuel particles in the engine cylinder which causes spontainous combustion. 

    A battery has up to 50% more power drawn in cold weather than it does on a warm day, so invest in a very good quality high amp hour one and temporarily pack it in roof insulation over the winter months as batteries also hate the cold. 

    If all of the above check out and your lorry still wont start than you will need to look closer at your fuel injectors, fuel pump and finally engine compression.



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Sounds like fuel lines are freezing.

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It may very well be the battery... to test that the starter may be "frozen"
have someone turn the key to start it.... and someone else to tap the starter with a hammer. if it starts... replace the starter

Robert

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    Roberta Smith Jan 14, 2009

    also if it doesn't start that way... get a boost from someone and see how well it works... you may even have to get a boost or recharge the battery to do the other test

  • Roberta Smith
    Roberta Smith Jan 14, 2009

    the hammer trick only works so many times... it is very likely the starter if it will not turn over at all

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    Roberta Smith Jan 14, 2009

    very odd.. i offered the same solution and it was wrong

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