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Hi i have hard to find the ignition timing with which one spout connect is. i have had a manual there is not good example. i am confuse how i could know where is from so i will set the timing.

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I found a part the distributor from TFI Module that was broken, cuz i dont know in happen that i saw the starter where the positive wire on the ground in causing through TFI module blow up. I replaced it done yesterday and it is run fine but i have hard to find other problem with run rough with gas control in carb..... i dont know where is getting from the part. I am still figure out later i have busy all week and weekend will be free time. can you explain me the sensor test each the carb and intake manifold in area. how i test with ohmmeters. i have had a manual. i am not sure which one is an example. later i find someone who mechanic experience will tutor me. Thank you for u information. hd1jr

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To set the igntion timing u have to pput #1 cyliner on compreson. After doing such, u have to remove the distributor cap and set the rotor to fire just before #1, so that when the engine is cranked, #1 will aready be on compression whilst #1 spark plug will fire around the sametime causing the engine to give a turnover

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