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I have a knocking sound in top of engine

Could i have a fuel knock i use 89 octane gas, or is there a valve adjustment on these engines i not familar with gas engines i have had the expedition since new and it has 70 thousand miles on it the noise was first noticed at around 45 thousand and it is starting to get a little louder and annoying do you have any suggestions.

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Try changing the fuel filter they hold a lot of impureties that get in to your motor that could be the problem

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