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The radio won't shut off when door is open and car is off

Possible (rap) problem or door sensor?

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    my vw jetta radio doesn't shut off when the car is turned off and the door wont lock until the radio shuts off.

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If the radio used to turn off but now it doesn't then you have a short either in the wiring or in the radio itself. If you are knowledgeable about automotive electrical wiring and have a volt meter or test light you can troubleshoot it yourself to see where the problem is, otherwise you need to take it to a car stereo shop and have them check the 12 volt connections at the back of the radio to make sure the red (NOT BLUE)accessory wire to the radio is not showing 12 volts when the ignition key is turned off.

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Could have a problem with (RAP) Retained Accessory Power.
Relay Control of Retained Accessory Power (RAP)
Retained accessory power (RAP) is a vehicle power mode that permits the operation of selected customer convenience items after the ignition switch is turned OFF. These selected items will remain in operation until a passenger compartment door is opened or until the RAP function timer reaches its shut-off limit.
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The RIM module opens the RAP relay to end the RAP function when it ends the RAP function as outlined in the previous text.
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The modules listed below all receive a RAP message from the dash integration module (DIM) module over the serial data circuits. The DIM module monitors the ignition switch position, battery condition and passenger compartment door status to determine whether RAP should be initiated. The DIM module then sends a message to the listed modules telling them that they are in RAP power mode. The modules then support the operation of the systems under their control as required by their RAP power mode strategy.
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• The DIM module receives a message from its internal timer indicating the end of the RAP period after 10 minutes.
• The DIM module detects a decrease in battery capacity below a prescribed limit.
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The DIM module then sends a serial data message to the listed modules ending the RAP function.
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• The vehicle communication interface module (VCIM)-Generation F1
• The vehicle interface unit (VIU)-Generation 2.6

The Rap relay could be bad (stuck contact's ) or one of the three module's that make up the body control system . Having the vehicle checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes should be the first step in diagnosing this type problem .

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Driver door switch ,ajar switch . This switch is a input to the BCM - body control module .
Retained Accessory Power Description and Operation
Retained accessory power (RAP) is a vehicle power mode that permits the operation of selected customer convenience items after the ignition switch is turned OFF. These selected items will remain in operation until a passenger compartment door or liftgate is opened or until the RAP function timer reaches its shut-off limit.
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Could be relay contact's stuck closed allowing power to stay on . Or it could be a BCM - body control module problem .

Retained Accessory Power (RAP)
The retained accessory power (RAP) system allows certain vehicle functions to operate for a specific amount of time after the ignition switch is turned OFF. The body control module (BCM) monitors the ignition switch position, battery condition, and each door ajar switch status to determine whether RAP should be initiated or terminated. RAP is controlled with two different methods; serial data and relay control. Some modules receive a RAP message from the BCM over the serial data circuits. Serial data controlled RAP is deactivated as required by their modules RAP power mode operation. Other subsystems are activated directly by the BCM through a RAP relay. Components and systems that are active in RAP are also activated anytime the ignition is any position other than OFF regardless of the door switch signals.

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Relay controlled RAP will end when one of the following conditions is met:
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• The BCM internal timer for the RAP expires after approximately 10 minutes.
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