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Sounds like its not firing on all cylinders. Try getting plugs replaced or have somebody put a timing light on it to see the cylinders is firing correctly!
Posted on Nov 01, 2012
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Posted on Jan 02, 2017
One question, have you replaced the ECTS (Electronic Cooling Temperature Sensor)? These cause no end of different seemingly unrelated problems on Saturns. Peice is about ten bucks and is an easy install. Just search on youtube for a how-to video. Even if that's not the problem it is reccommended to replace this peice just the same as they ALL end up going bad at some point.
If that's not a fix, start pulling plugs. Check to see if they're correctly gapped and if they have any damage/corrosion. If you're running Platinum plugs, immediatly change to a copper plug as Platinums have no place in these motors. Most people have the best luck with NGK copper.
Check to make sure that your plug wires haven't been crossed. This sounds like a plug or wire issue most likely so it has to be in that family, if the plugs are good, wires good and not crossed, sensors are fine, then time to replace your coil packs. If you've replaced everything up to the coil packs then that is most likely the cause of your dillema.
Posted on Oct 25, 2008
The black soot on the plugs means that you are running extremely rich. The fuel injectors ma test good electricly, but they are notorious for leaks. The spider-looking thing sandwiched between the plastic intake plenum and the intake manifold gets cracks in it's "legs" and leaks fuel ito the plenum area. The fuel pressure regulator is also housed in this same assembly. if the diaphram in the regulator gets a pinhole in it, it also leaks fuel into the plenum area, causing all kinds of erratic idleing, black smoke from the exhaust, and will cause your fuel trims to drop into the negative 20s.
There is a technical service bulletin covering this subject. This procedure outlines the steps required to replace the existing Central SFI Fuel System with a new MFI (Multiport Flexible Injection) Fuel System.
It is removing the injectors which are all housed in the center body of the injector assembly and replacing them with a new version where the injectors are located where the ols "poppets" used to be in the intake manifold ports. The picture below is for a V-8 engine that is covered by the same TSB.
The poppets and the pressure regulator are available individually to fix your existing fuel injection system, but I gave up on that after replacing several poppets only to have them come back in a few months with another popet line broken. I recommend replacing the whole assembly with the new and improved version. My customers have told me after doing this that the engine never ran that smooth when it was new.
The GM part number for the new injector assembly for your V-6 engine is 12568332 it is also now available at several aftermarket parts outlets.
As for the timing chain solution posted by doodieman200, all I have to say is that I have enough fingers on one hand to count all of the failed timing chains I have replaced on these engines. If you don't have a cam/crank sync code, the timing chain has definitely not slipped a tooth.
Posted on Oct 18, 2009
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A misfire at idle that smooths out at cruise is ALMOST ALWAYS caused by a vacuum leak. Take a hard look at your fuel trims at idle. If the Bank 2 Long Term Fuel Trim is more than + a couple points higher than the Bank 1 trim, your problem is most likely a vacuum leak. If the Fuel Trims even-out while holding the engine at 2000 RPM for about 20 seconds, then a vacuum leak is DEFINITELY your problem. I would suspect a leaking lower intake gasket leak because an upper plenum leak will normally affect all cylinders.
Posted on Jan 30, 2011
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