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2007 saturn outlook code U2100


Do you know what a serial data network is ? U codes are problems associated the data buss . A module isn't communicating or the buss wiring is shorted etc.....
Data Link Communications Description and Operation

Do you know what an how many modules are on your vehicle ?

The communication among control modules is performed primarily through the GMLAN high speed serial data circuit and the GMLAN low speed serial data circuits. The modules that need real time communication are attached to the high speed GMLAN network. The body control module (BCM) is the serial data gateway between the networks. The purpose of the gateway is to translate serial data messages between the GMLAN high speed buss and the GMLAN low speed buss. The controller area network (CAN) is another serial data communication network used on this vehicle which is dedicated to the electronic brake control module (EBCM) subsystem for stabilization. Below are more detailed descriptions of the individual networks. The gateway will interact with each network according to that network's transmission protocol. Refer to Body Control System Description and Operation for more information about the gateway.

Your best bet would be to take your vehicle to a qualified repair shop .

DTC U2100 00: Controller Area Network (CAN) Bus Communication
The GMLAN serial data circuits are controller area network (CAN) serial data buses used to communicate information between the control modules. Typical data transmission speeds must be high enough to ensure that a required real-time response is maintained. On this vehicle there are 2 totally different types of GMLAN serial data circuits, the high speed 2-wire circuit and low speed single wire circuit. Refer to Data Link Communications Description and Operation for the complete description of these buses. The GMLAN serial data circuits also communicate directly to the DLC connector. Messages are interpreted by the externally connected CANdi module which acts as a transceiver for the scan tool.
Modules connected to the GMLAN serial data circuits monitor communications during normal vehicle operation, where operation information is exchanged among the modules. All the modules on the GMLAN networks, maintain a transmit error counter (TEC) and a receive error counter (REC). The counter values increase with detected errors and will decrease with error-free messages. If the TEC value exceeds 255, the controller removes itself from the network and DTC U2100 will result.

016 CAN Communications

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What does fault code u041800 mean on 2011, 1.6tdci Ford Focus? What causes it and how can you fix it?


U0418 Ford Invalid Data Received From Brake System Control Module
Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop . Do you know anything about serial data communication networks ? C.A.N - controller area network ?
How to Diagnose Controller Area Network CAN
Communications Network Vehicle communication utilizes both medium and high speed controller area network (CAN) communications. CAN is used for many modules to communicate with each other on a common network. CAN in-vehicle networking is a method for transferring data among distributed electronic modules via a serial data bus. Without serial networking, intermodule communication requires dedicated, point to point wiring resulting in bulky, expensive, complex, and difficult to install wiring harnesses. Applying a serial data network reduces the number of wires combining the signals on a single network. Information is sent to the individual control modules that control each function.
The vehicle has 2 module communication networks:
  • Medium speed (MS) CAN
  • High speed (HS) CAN
Both networks are connected to the data link connector (DLC). This makes diagnosis and testing of these systems easier by allowing one scan tool to be able to diagnose and control any module on both networks from one connector. The DLC can be found under the instrument panel between the steering column and the audio unit.

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2007 Chevy Malibu won't start, odometer reads error


The odometer will display 'error' if an internal IPC memory failure is detected or if there is a serial data communication fault between the ECM and the BCM. IPC instrument panel cluster .
Circuit Description
The communication among control modules is performed through the GMLAN high speed serial data circuit and the GMLAN low speed serial data circuit. The modules that need real time communication are attached to the high speed GMLAN network. The body control module (BCM) is the gateway between the networks. The purpose of the gateway is to translate serial data messages between the GMLAN high speed buss and the GMLAN low speed buss. The gateway will interact with each network according to that network's transmission protocol. Refer to Body Control System Description and Operation for more information about the gateway.
Your best bet is to take your vehicle to the dealer , sorry !

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I have a 2008 chevy impala ss and the service staibiltrac is on and when I speed up my car shakes and when I slow down it shakes... What can be the problem...


You need to take the vehicle an have a diagnostic scan of the control modules done . With the service staibiltrac on the system is disabled , an any number of thing's can cause system to shut down . With these systems the computer can change engine timing , RPM , valve timing etc.... All the modules on your vehicle share information , communicate on a serial data network .
The communication among control modules is performed through the High speed GMLAN serial data circuits and the Low speed GMLAN serial data circuit. The modules that need real time communication are attached to the High speed GMLAN network. The body control module (BCM) is the gateway between the high and low speed networks. Communication is necessary between the high and low speed serial data modules for the vehicle to start. Refer to Body Control System Description and Operation for more information about the gateway.
Signal supervision is the process of determining whether an expected signal is being received or not. Some messages are sent on a periodic basis and are interpreted as a heartbeat of a device. If such a signal is lost, the signal supervision part of the software will set a no communication DTC (U code) against the missing device. This code is mapped on the Tech 2 screen as a code against the physical device. A lost communication DTC typically is set in modules other than the module with a communication failure.
When thing's like the problem your having need to be diagnosed by a qualified repair facility . This is nothing for a DIYER to mess with .
When

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On my 05 Ford mustang v6, my fan only comes on when i turn my AC on and makes a funny noise when I turn the AC on, diagnostic test gave me a code, u1900, what does this mean and how do I fix it?


Where did you pull this code from ? What type scan tool did you use ,or was it a code reader ? Do you know about data communication networks on modern cars ? A U codes indicate a communication problem on the data network .
U1900 CAN Communication Bus Fault-Receive Error Audio Control Module REFER to Section 418-00 . U1900 CAN Communication Bus Fault-Receive Error ABS Module REFER to Section 418-00 . U1900 CAN Communication Bus Fault-Receive Error Instrument Cluster REFER to Section 418-00 . U1900 CAN Communication Bus Fault-Receive Error SJB REFER to Section 418-00 . The thing that would make this easier to diagnose would be to have a factory scan tool or a professional grade . Need to know what modules can communicate with scan tool .Honestly ,Don't think you can fix this . Dealer or ASE certified repair shop .Do you know what C.A.N. - controller area network is ? The vehicle has 3 module communications networks:
  • high speed controller area network (CAN)
  • medium speed CAN
  • international standards organization (ISO) 9141 communications network
The diagnostic tool connects to the communications networks through the data link connector (DLC). The DLC allows a diagnostic tool access to diagnose and test the vehicle systems of any module on the communications networks.
All 3 communications networks are connected to the DLC. This makes diagnosis and testing of these systems easier by allowing one diagnostic tool to be able to diagnose and control any module on the 3 communications networks from one common connector. The DLC can be found under the instrument panel between the steering column and the driver door. Which module doesn't communicate with scan tool ?
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • The anti-lock brake system (ABS) module does not respond to the diagnostic tool
  • Circuit or connection in the high speed controller area network (CAN)
  • ABS module
  • Go To Pinpoint Test A .
  • The audio unit does not respond to the diagnostic tool
  • Circuit or connection in the medium speed controller area network (CAN)
  • Audio unit
  • Go To Pinpoint Test B .
  • Circuit or connection in the medium speed controller area network (CAN)
  • Audio unit
  • Go To Pinpoint Test B .
  • The instrument cluster does not respond to the diagnostic tool - high speed controller area network (CAN)
  • Circuit or connection in the high speed CAN
  • Instrument cluster
  • Go To Pinpoint Test C .
  • The instrument cluster does not respond to the diagnostic tool - medium speed controller area network (CAN)
  • Circuit or connection in the medium speed CAN
  • Instrument cluster
  • Go To Pinpoint Test D .
  • The powertrain control module (PCM) does not respond to the diagnostic tool
  • Circuit or connection in the high speed controller area network (CAN)
  • PCM
  • Go To Pinpoint Test E .
  • The restraint control module (RCM) does not respond to the diagnostic tool
  • Circuit or connection in the international standards organization (ISO) 9141 communications network
  • RCM
  • Go To Pinpoint Test I .
  • The smart junction box (SJB) does not respond to the diagnostic tool
  • Circuit or connection in the medium speed controller area network (CAN)
  • SJB
  • Go To Pinpoint Test F .
  • No high speed controller area network (CAN) communication
  • Circuit or connection in the high speed CAN
  • High speed CAN modules
  • Go To Pinpoint Test G .
  • No medium speed controller area network (CAN) communication
  • Circuit or connection in the medium speed CAN
  • Medium speed CAN modules
  • Go To Pinpoint Test H .
  • No international standards organization (ISO) 9141 communications network communication
  • Circuit or connection in the ISO 9141 communications network circuit
  • Restraint control module (RCM)
  • Go To Pinpoint Test I .
  • No module/network communication - no power to the diagnostic tool
  • Data link connector (DLC) C251
  • Bussed electrical center (BEC) fuse 4 (30A)
  • Smart junction box (SJB) fuse 8 (10A)
  • Circuitry
  • Diagnostic tool
  • Go To Pinpoint Test J .

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Where is the Body Control Module located?


I'm just curious if your aware of the BCM function's on your vehicle an if you know what the gate way module is ? An do you know about serial data communication between modules ? An do you know what the power mode master is ? And do you know the BCM needs programming ?
The body control module (BCM) in this vehicle functions as a gateway or translator. The purpose of the gateway is to translate serial data messages between the GMLAN high speed buss and the GMLAN low speed buss for communication between the various modules. The gateway will interact with each network according to that network's transmission protocol.
One example of this necessary communication is the communication between the engine control module (ECM)/powertrain control module (PCM) which is high speed serial data and Theft Deterrent Module which is low speed serial data. If these modules can not exchange information, the vehicle will not start.
Communication between the BCM and a scan tool can be on the high speed GMLAN network or low speed GMLAN network. If one network is lost, the BCM can still communicate with the scan tool. A lost communication DTC typically is set in modules other than the module with a communication failure.

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Y would there be no communication to trans


A bad CAN data circuit , no power or ground to the module ! Do you have any DTC'S
DTC U0001 High Speed CAN Communication Bus
Modules connected to the high speed GMLAN serial data circuits monitor for serial data communications on the high speed GMLAN network during normal vehicle operation. Operating information and commands are exchanged among the modules. When a module detects a bus-off condition, a DTC U2100 will be set. This DTC can be retrieved as history only.

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What is the code u0184 mean in a 2009 pontiac g8 6 cylinder


U0184 00
Lost Communication with Radio , did you replace factory radio ?
The communication among control modules is performed through the High speed GMLAN serial data circuits and the Low speed GMLAN serial data circuit. The modules that need real time communication are attached to the High Speed GMLAN network. The body control module (BCM) is the gateway between the high and low speed networks. Refer to Body Control System Description and Operation for more information about the gateway.
Signal supervision is the process of determining whether an expected signal is being received or not. Some messages are sent on a periodic basis and are interpreted as a heartbeat of a device. If such a signal is lost, the signal supervision part of the software will set a no communication DTC (U code) against the missing device. This code is mapped on the scan tool screen as a code against the physical device. A lost communication DTC typically is set in modules other than the module with a communication failure.
Does the vehicle start an run ?

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I have 08 ford escape when I try to scan it said no communication


Do you know about communication networks or serial data communications on vehicles , these let the scan tool communicate with the different modules on the vehicle ! Newer vehicles have several, PCM - powertrain control module , Anti-theft module , Air bags , antilock brakes , Body control module or in the case of ford a smart junction box . an some others !
Communications Network Vehicle communication utilizes both International Standards Organization (ISO) 9141 and controller area network (CAN) communications. ISO 9141 is used for diagnostic use only, and CAN is used for many modules to communicate with each other on a common network. CAN in-vehicle networking, is a method for transferring data among distributed electronic modules via a serial data bus. Without serial networking, intermodule communication requires dedicated, point to point wiring resulting in bulky, expensive, complex, and difficult to install wiring harnesses. Applying a serial data network reduces the number of wires combining the signals on a single network. Information is sent to the individual control modules that control each function.
The vehicle has 3 module communication networks:
  • ISO 9141
  • Medium speed (MS) CAN
  • High speed (HS) CAN
All 3 networks are connected to the data link connector (DLC). This makes diagnosis and testing of these systems easier by allowing one scan tool to be able to diagnose and control any module on the 3 networks from one connector. The DLC can be found under the instrument panel between the steering column and the audio unit.
HS-CAN Network Operation
The HS-CAN network communicates using bussed messages. The HS-CAN network uses an unshielded twisted pair cable, data bus (+) and data bus (-) circuits. In addition to scan tool communication, this network allows sharing of information between all modules on the network.
The HS-CAN is a high speed communication network used for the following modules:
  • ABS module
  • 4WD control module (if equipped)
  • Instrument cluster
  • PCM
  • MS-CAN Network Operation
    The MS-CAN network communicates using bussed messages. The MS-CAN has an unshielded twisted pair cable, data bus (+) and data bus (-) circuits. In addition to scan tool communication, this network allows sharing of information between all modules on the network.
    The MS-CAN is a medium speed communication network used for the following modules:
    • Instrument cluster
    • SJB
    HS-CAN Network
  • What type of scan tool are you using ? or are you using a code reader ?

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