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Want to replace the air conditioning heater control unit (Scenic)

Fan is constantly on full and cannot be tuned down. Heating is working and can change temperature.

Have obtained a second hand unit but do not know how to go about replacing the faulty one.

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This has to be a faulty switch or varable speed resistor.
youre saying you have no control over fan. i see this when people bypass it as speed resistor is expensive so they wire it direct.

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