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My wipers work on low and high, on intermittent they work like low. the washer function no longer works. and the wipers don't return to park.

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  • dvdmw Dec 30, 2008

    ya, I figured that much. I was hoping for something a bit more specific.

  • dvdmw Jan 01, 2009

    this sollution could of been offered by a four year old. IE: It sounds as if you have a problem with your wipers. ? come on....

  • dvdmw Jan 07, 2009

    what is meant by 'the switch' has gone bad? Is that the stalk on the steering column? I've been so far disapointed with any advice. But don't stop trying. I'm an idiot- be more specific if possible. I did replace the fuses and relays. I think it's the 250 dollar computerized wiper motor. Again, both the intermintent, return home of the wiper function and the washer function quit at the same time. It is definitely connected. DW

  • dvdmw Feb 28, 2009

    I found my sollution!!! Listen up fellow Saab owners with similar probs. The wiper motor controlls (in a way) the intermittent, and washer pump functions!
    I found a used 2003 Saab motor from a junk yard (75$US), HAS to be 2003 or newer, and installed it. Immediately my wipers worked like new! They return to home, they intermitent, and the windshield washer fluid pump works again! Thank God!
    This was a tough problem and I couldn't find much on the internet for sollutions, lots of the same problem zero solutions. My dad is an electrical engineer and we determined it is a homing switch w/in the motor (wiper moter) that controlls or sends signals. We were also concerned with the harness that goes to the motor cause it looked wet, but never replaced it.
    Hints on the job: Use a sharp screw driver to pop buttons off the wiper arm. Next, Getting the wipers off their spindles took a special tool called a wheel puller. Note the position of the wipers on the windshield if not home (at the bottom) w/ a marker.
    Getting the lower windshield protective/decorative plastic that runs the lower full (left to right) lenght of the WS: Pull the plastic piece off by pushing center (with small screw driver) of retention rings and retracting gently.
    For wiper motor removal, you need to remove the mechanical wiper assembly (very hard). Dont bend the tubes.They attach on the little (@2.5 inch)metal arm that rotates around the wiper motor. At the end of that arm, extends (upward) a double barrel nipple that then accepts the two rods (metal tubes) of the wiper assemply. They are very hard and resistant to popping off this greased balled connector. Inside the assembly is a rubber thing that pops over a metal double circle nipple. first take the top one off, then the bottom. Use a car door panel remover and a screw driver from opposite sides or just two screw drivers to even the pressure out and aimed upward, try not to torque or bend tubes/ wiper assembly.
    We had to use a short blast from a torch to heat it up enough to pop off (winter time). Worked great. takes some effort and strength.

    If you have probs like I explained w/ your 2003-2008 Saab 93, this is the problem. Don't waste time with the dealer. None of them seem to know this problem and start with the washer pump, the wiper assembly, the actual stalk on the steering wheel, the computer. etc. ect. etc.
    Call me if you need acvice. Only after 1pm Eastern time at 585-544-6082 (USA).
    Dave


  • Anonymous Mar 05, 2009

    I have same problem with 2003 9-3 Vector. I bought a refurbished wiper motor online ($75) and will replace it. Thanks for the details and hints on how to replace. Hope this fixes it for me as well.

  • sisu cy Apr 13, 2009

    I had the same problem, no delay wipers & no squirters. After reading your post I found a used motor on car-part.com for $35 and it did the trick! I'm guessing that your right about the centering switch being the problem. One suggestion...to remove the wiper arms I loosened the nuts a couple turns, then used a pair of large channel locks to squeeze on the back of the arm and the top of the nut, they popped right off. Thanks.

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Thanks. Hey guys, I've found the root cause of the problem. Yes you're right it has to do with the wiper motor assembly. But I took it apart, but this means drilling out the sort of rivets or posts. I removed the plastic black cover over the gear case, and inside there's a switch, that switch has a brown lead going one side and the other side goes to the ground of the housing via a brass sort of washer, and this brass washer was all corroded. Just clean it until you get to the brass, inside out. You don't need to remove the motor housing. Remove all the grey silicon sealing, replace with a silicon sealing, drill holes (I used a 6/32 drill) through the posts that used to retain the cover, screw the cover back with self tapping screws (I used #8 size, half inch). And you've got a rebuilt motor assembly.

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Hello I have a saab 9.3 SS 04 and had the same problem.

- intermittent wipe doesn't work, at all
- windscreen washers don't work, at all
- "normal" continuous, and fast wipe work, but the wipers
freeze in the middle of the windscreen if you let go of the
control stalk, rather than sweeping back to the resting position
- same "freeze" happens with the manual wipe (push down on the control stalk)

The weird thing is that, this morning, for about 10 minutes, it seemed to fix itself,
partially - the washers started working etc - but the intermittent wipe still didn't work. However not long after that it went back to the symptoms described above.
also if I unplugged my car battery for a minute the washers worked for several seconds but again same problem occurs.

Solution is to replace your wiper motor. its that "simple"
worked for me. The wiper motor has a lot of electronic stuff and seems to control the washer engine.
Good luck.
the bad part is the the wiper motor costed 235€ for me.

thanks to dvdmw I also solved my problem. BIG THANKS!


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It sounds like to me you could have a bad motor or a bad switch

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  • Eric Peelman Jan 04, 2009

    most likey the switch has go bad try replacing it

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My wiper motor only works on high and stops were ever the wipers are at. And the washer motor doest #39;t work


Low Speed Windshield Wipers
Low speed is activated when the multifunction switch supplies a specific ground to the speed inputs of the windshield wiper motor module. The windshield wiper motor module then supplies ground to only the windshield wiper run/park relay coil, activating it. When the windshield wiper run/park relay is activated, the deactivated high/low relay connects voltage to the windshield wiper motor low input activating the wiper motor. The windshield wiper motor module continues to operate the windshield wiper motor in the same manner as in high speed, but in low speed with the wiper motor connected to the low speed input.
Washer System
The windshield washer is activated by the internal wiper motor module when it receives a ground signal input from the multifunction switch. Dependent on the switch selection, the internal wiper motor module activates the windshield washer relay (internal) by grounding the respective relay coil. When the relay is activated, it connects voltage to the washer pump while the washer level switch provides ground to the washer pump.
Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Windshield washer hoses
  • Wiper linkage
  • Multifunction switch
  • Battery junction box (BJB) fuse 110 (30A)
  • Central junction box (CJB) fuse 13 (10A)
  • Circuitry
  • Windshield wiper motor
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • The wipers are inoperative
  • Fuse(s)
  • Circuitry
  • Multifunction switch
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • Go To Pinpoint Test A .
  • The wipers stay on continuously
  • Circuitry
  • Multifunction switch
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • Go To Pinpoint Test B .
  • The high/low wiper speeds do not operate correctly (intermittent wiper mode OK)
  • Circuitry
  • Multifunction switch
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • Go To Pinpoint Test C .
  • The intermittent windshield wiper speed does not operate correctly (high/low speeds OK)
  • Circuitry
  • Multifunction switch
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • Go To Pinpoint Test D .
  • The wipers will not park at correct position
  • Pivot arm adjustment
  • Linkage
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • REFER to Windshield Wiper Blade and Pivot Arm Adjustment in this section.
  • The washer pump is inoperative
  • Circuitry
  • Windshield washer pump
  • Multifunction switch
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • Go To Pinpoint Test E .
Do you know how to do electrical testing ?
  • windshield wiper motor
  • PINPOINT TEST C: THE HIGH/LOW WIPER SPEEDS DO NOT OPERATE CORRECTLY (INTERMITTENT WIPER MODE OK) s6a~tr~en~file=ani_caut.gif~gen~ref.gif CAUTION: Use the correct probe adaptor(s) when making measurements. Failure to use the correct probe adaptor(s) may damage the connector.
    Test Step Result / Action to Take C1 CHECK THE MULTIFUNCTION SWITCH
    • Key in OFF position.
    • Disconnect: Multifunction Switch C202b.
    • Carry out the multifunction switch component test. Refer to Wiring Diagrams Cell 149 for schematic and connector information.
    • Does the multifunction switch pass the component test?
    Yes
    GO to C2 .

    No
    INSTALL a new multifunction switch. REFER to Section 211-05 . C2 CHECK CIRCUIT 57 (BK) FOR AN OPEN
    • Measure the resistance between the multifunction switch C202b-5, circuit 57 (BK), harness side and ground.
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    • Is the resistance less than 5 ohms?
    Yes
    GO to C3 .

    No
    REPAIR the circuit. TEST the system for normal operation. C3 CHECK CIRCUITS 56 (DB/OG), 61 (YE/RD), AND 63 (RD) FOR OPENS
    • Disconnect: Windshield Wiper Motor C125.
    • Using the following table, measure the resistance between the multifunction switch C202b harness side and the windshield wiper motor C125 harness side:

      Multifunction Switch C202b Windshield Wiper Motor C125 pin 6, circuit 56 (DB/OG) pin 10, circuit 56 (DB/OG) pin 1, circuit 61 (YE/RD) pin 1, circuit 61 (YE/RD) pin 4, circuit 63 (RD) pin 9, circuit 63 (RD)

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    • Are the resistances less than 5 ohms?
    Yes
    GO to C4 .

    No
    REPAIR the circuit. TEST the system for normal operation. C4 CHECK FOR CORRECT WIPER MOTOR OPERATION
    • Disconnect all wiper motor connectors.
    • Check for:
      • corrosion
      • pushed-out pins
    • Connect all wiper motor connectors and make sure they seat correctly.
    • Operate the system and verify the concern is still present.
    • Is the concern still present?
    Yes
    GO to C5 .

    No
    The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by a loose or corroded connector. TEST the system for normal operation. C5 CHECK THE WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR
    • Key in OFF position.
    • Disconnect: Windshield Wiper Motor C125.
    • Carry out the windshield wiper motor component test as outlined in this section.
    • Does the windshield wiper motor pass the component test?
    Yes
    The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by binding or incorrect pivot arm adjustment. REFER to Windshield Wiper Blade and Pivot Arm Adjustment in this section. TEST the system for normal operation.

    No
    INSTALL a new windshield wiper motor. REFER to Windshield Wiper Motor in this section.

    Jul 20, 2016 | 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis

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    Wipers dont work


    This is a complex wiper system . Here are all the components involved !
    The Wiper/Washer System consists of the following components:
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    Windshield wiper/washer switch


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    Body control module (BCM)


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    Wiper 1 relay


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    Wiper 2 relay


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    Wiper diode


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    Windshield wiper motor


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    Windshield washer pump


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    Windshield washer nozzles


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    Windshield washer solvent container


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    Windshield wiper arm and blade assemblies


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    Windshield wiper transmission


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    WIPER/SW 10A fuse


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    WIPER 25A fuse


    Circuit/System Description
    The body control module (BCM) controls the wiper motor based on input from the windshield wiper washer switch. The BCM monitors the wiper washer switch through three separate signal circuits and a ground circuit. The windshield wiper switch high signal circuit is used to determine high speed wiper operation, the windshield wiper switch low signal is used to determine low speed, intermittent, and mist operation through the use of a resistor ladder, and windshield washer switch signal circuit is used to determine washer operation. The windshield wiper motor park operation is controlled by the BCM. The BCM recieves an input from the park switch to determine wiper blade position. When the wiper blades are at the bottom of the windshield glass in park position the wiper park switch will open and the circuit will be pulled up to B+ by the BCM. The park signal will be pulled to ground by the wiper motor park switch while the wiper blades are not in the park position.
    The BCM controls the windshield wiper motor through two output controls, controlling two relays which determine the desired wiper speed, high or low
    Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs)
    The body control module (BCM) monitors the voltage on the windshield wiper switch signal 2 circuit for diagnostic purposes. If the circuit is shorted to voltage while the driver is commanded OFF, the BCM will store DTC B3715. If the circuit is shorted to ground while the driver is commanded ON, the BCM will store DTC B3715. Refer to DTC B3715.
    It would be best to have a factory scan tool to diagnose this problem . it would make it easier anyway .
    It

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    The problem would be in the stalk controller. The wiper Relay is what provides power to the motor for all settings, the delayed wipers, low speed, and high speed. There are not 3 relays, but 1 for all functions. If you have power to the high setting, the relay is working.

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    Where is the wiper relay


    A wiring diagram doesn't show a relay, just a 25 amp fuse in fuse panel under driver's side of dash. Intermittent working is usually from a loose or poor or corroded connection, or the switch is old and tired, or the motor is old and tired.
    Here is one way to check, if you have a test light: when the wipers are not working with wiper switch on high, and key is on, pull off the connector to the wiper/washer motor module (in the engine bay, on the firewall) and check if the purple wire has power. If it does, you probably need to replace the module. Inside the module is a park relay switch (to return wipers to down position when turned off) and a circuit breaker between the motor and ground.
    If the purple wire does not have power when key is on and wipers on high, the connection is lost between the switch and the module, or the switch may be malfunctioning. The switch has 5 wires, white wire from 25 amp fuse (power in to switch), a pink wire (for the washer motor), a purple wire (high speed wipers), a dark green wire (low speed wipers), and a gray wire (for the park relay switch inside the wiper/washer motor module). If you see a yellow wire also at the module, that is part of the low speed wiper circuit (the dark green wire) coming from the park relay switch and then to the motor.
    Good luck. Post back if further questions, or need more help.

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    95 Tacoma wipers are in low on intermiitent pos and do not park. Motor test OK


    IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WIPER MOPTOR HAS A DEFECTIVE PARK CONTACT SWITCH. THIS IS PART OF THE MOTOR AND YOU MUST REPLACE THE MOTOR TO REPAIR THE PROBLEM

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    The rear wiper on my '99 model exped isnt working ,ford global says its the motor and it will cost me P13k . any one who can help me find a mechanic do some repair on this?


    what is P13K?

    check the fuse first. dealer can hook up NGS Tester and get fault codes to see what is wrong.

    Principles of Operation
    NOTE: The generic electronic module (GEM) will not activate the rear wiper system if either the liftgate or the liftgate glass is ajar. If either the liftgate or the liftgate glass becomes ajar while the rear wiper is in operation, the GEM will park the rear wiper motor.
    There are two distinct modes of wiper operation:
    • Off Mode: In this mode, there is no rear wiper activity, and the wiper motor will be in the PARK position.
    • Interval Mode: This mode is selected when the rear wiper switch is in either the Interval 1 or 2 position. When this mode is selected, the rear wiper motor is driven up onto the glass by activating the rear wiper UP relay. When the wiper motor HIGH/LOW/PARK position input reaches the high position, the UP relay is deactivated and the DOWN relay is activated to reverse the wiper motor direction. When the wiper motor reaches the LOW position, as determined by the HIGH/LOW/PARK position input, the GEM deactivates the DOWN relay and will begin a new wiper cycle 1 to 10 seconds later, depending on the interval position selected.
    To engage the rear window washer, rotate the rear window washer selector downward to the WASH position. The rear window wiper will run as long as the WASH position is selected. When the rear window washer selector returns to the OFF, INT 1 or INT 2 position, the washer will stop immediately, but the rear window wiper will continue for two to three sweeps and then return to its previous mode of operation.
    The low washer fluid indicator chime warns that the washer fluid level is low. The low washer fluid indicator chime is a single tone with a duration of one second. The chime will sound when the low washer fluid indicator is initially activated.
    The low washer fluid indicator warns that the fluid level in the washer reservoir is low. The low washer fluid indicator will illuminate when the washer fluid level is low and the ignition switch is in the RUN position.
    The low washer fluid indicator will deactivate when the washer fluid reservoir is filled and the ignition switch has been cycled from RUN to OFF, then to RUN.
    Inspection and Verification
    1. The wiper/washer system is a generic electronic module (GEM) controlled system; refer to Section 419-10 .
    1. Verify the customer concern by operating the wiper/washer system.
    1. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage.


    Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
    • Hoses to windshield washer pump
    • Wiper linkage
    • Fuses 6 (5A), 8 (5A), 15 (5A), and 20 (5A)
    • Wiring harness
    • Loose or corroded connector(s)
    • Relays
    • Motors
    • Multifunction switch
    • Washer fluid level switch


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    • The wipers are inoperative — rear
    • Fuses 6 (5A), 8 (5A), 15 (5A), and 20 (5A).
    • Circuitry.
    • GEM.
    • Multifunction switch (wiper/washer switch).
    • Rear wiper up relay.
    • Rear wiper down relay.
    • Rear wiper motor.

    May 12, 2009 | 1999 Ford Expedition

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    Wipers do not work in intermittent position. They do work in low and high speeds but do not automatically return to the park position. They stop wherever you turn the switch off.


    i belive that your wiper switch has gone out on the intermittent side. this is a very common problem.
    I hope this helps you
    Thanks
    Please leave rating

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