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Transmission slipping in all gears.

It was run in four wheel drive with different sized tires front to back. Does not move at all unless it's extremely cold outside and will move for the first minute or so after it's started until fluid is warm.

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4 wheel drive vehicles are desigined to run with equal size tyres front and back, if not severe stress is placed on the drivetrain, The transmission will most likely need overhaul, biut do not be surprised if you have transfer box faults and diff faults as well. Find a good transmission tech and get a quote.

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I hope this helps out buddy.
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