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4 wheel drive out ,

I was climbing a snowy hill when there was a clunk in the front, sounds like gears slipping not engaging, Now only the right rear wheel works.Theres still aslipping of gears not engaging in the front transaxle or?

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  • whitewaternu Dec 21, 2008

    its not drive shaft and theres a clicking as a drive it in the front differential,, ( not engaging ? ) is that selinoid ?

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Diff unit broke ,drive shaft broke or engaging solonoid not working

Posted on Dec 20, 2008

  • Colin Stickland
    Colin Stickland Dec 23, 2008

    without hearing sound its difficult to say as clicking noise could be the pinion turning against the crownwheel and not turning it as the teeth broke off, normally on 4x4 the engaging mechanism for the front and rear differentials is in the gearbox not the axle.Check if this design has prop to front axle from transfer box is permantly turning,try operating it and looking to see ?if prop is not permanantly rotating then its not a solonoid but diff unit broke

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