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Joe Maranhas Posted on Aug 13, 2012
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Brake problem I replaced the booster two years ago. I just replaced the master cylinder. I bled it as instructed and bled all the wheel lines. I have a good pedal until I start the engine. It must be a vacuum problem. Where do I start???

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Sounds like your braking system is working perfectly as vacuum adided system should. A hard pedal is normal when engine is off then the nvac sftens the pedal. If pedal is moving down too much check your brake pads and/or shoes for wear and adjustment.

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  • Posted on Mar 15, 2009

SOURCE: brake pedal goes soft when engin is running on 1998 chevy 1500

pull your rear drums and inspect the shoes,you may have too addjust them out by hand too get the peddle you want

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  • Posted on Oct 10, 2009

SOURCE: 89 c1500, full pedal on brakes until started then

adjust your rear shoes up so that the rear drums just turn, with them ajusted to a low setting the brake pedal will be low .
also when you start your engine it is noral for the pedal to drop because of the boster ! [ but not to the floor ]
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  • Posted on Oct 18, 2009

SOURCE: brake pedal dropping to floor

do u have the antilock brake bleeding tool? if not you will need to have the dealer bleed the brakes, the ABS control valve must be electricaly held open to bleed the brakes there of course is a special tool for this.

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