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Mechanic said valve lifters need to be replaced

Had the valve cover gasket and the drive belt replaced on my '93 Saturn SL1. Noticed new noise when I started car and for a few miles driving. Mechanic says that valve lifters need replacing, and soon. I think they have been making noise for quite a while. How can I tell if they need replacing, and if they have been bad for quite a while, has that damaged anything else, like valves, etc. Also, I think maybe that there are two separate noises, the lifters and a new noise starting after the gasket and drive belt were replaced. What could that be? Help!!

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Carolyn

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  • morefn4me Mar 20, 2009

    engine is making a knocking noise that follows as you accelerate. if it is a lifter, what exactly is this and what damage can it cause... im clueless...what else could the problem be?

  • Anonymous May 08, 2009

    how do i change the valve cover gasket

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  • paul swallow May 11, 2010

    did the timing belt break, if so the valve could be damaged ie. bent

    did it make this noise before or after this work was done?

    does it run good \ idle ok or rough

  • Anonymous Mar 22, 2014

    Can the lifters be replaced without additional valve train work .?

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Valve lifters make a kind of rattly knocking noise! which sort of follow engine revs.if they are gone you may need a new camshaft as well, best to do itr all at the same time and are sold as a kit.are you sure there is a new noise or are you just listening harder?

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    • 1

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