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1997 -232 setting rear brakes(drum clearance) thanks daniel

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  • oompie Dec 18, 2008

    I thought so, thanks confirming it,I was expecting some Hoo Doo.

    Thanks so much,

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Pull the drum off and check the shoes if there is plenty of shoes grab hold of each shoe in one hand each and slowly pull them apart there is a ratchet mechanism that will operate and lock the shoes at the next level after each click put the drum back on and and see how it feals you want it to just be grabbing not to firm, if it is to firm get a screw driver between the ratchet mechanism and reset it back a click our two,
it is a little tricky the ffirst time so dont try it if you are in a rush to go some were
good luck mate

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How to adjust rear shoes with drums


You are right to think they are self adjust under normal circumstances. You seem to have a good knowledge of how they work etc so I'm going to suggest you retrace your steps and make sure the self adjust mech in the brake is correctly set. You should not need to alter the E brake cables, make sure the E brake is fully OFF when you set the shoes. You are on the right lines so just retrace your steps. You should be able to fit the drums and set the shoes with a couple of pumps of the pedal and a couple of pulls / presses of the E brake.
If you are having trouble fitting the drums get an abrasive flapper wheel on an electric drill and remove the rusty shoulder that builds up on the drum edge. This may be where your excess clearance is coming from because you can't get the drum passed the shoes easily.
You say the E brake no longer works, has a cable become detached from 1 drum?

Jun 29, 2014 | 2004 Pontiac Grand Am

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Brake drum


If this is a rear rotor having a Emergency drum or simply a brake drum, it is often necessary to force the Emergency brake closed to eliminate clearance problems.
With some vehicles, the hub will rust and the brake drum or rotor will be bonded together. Penetrating oil, rubber hammer, and rotating the drum will help the oil spread behind the fixture.
Sometimes you need some heat.

May 01, 2013 | 1995 Ford Aspire

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PROBLEM WITH REAR BRAKES GRABBING AND LOCKING WAS PRESENT PRIOR TO ME REPLACING ALL PARTS AS A PROCESS OF ELIMINATION. REAR DRUMS SPIN FREELY SO THERE IS PLENTY OF CLEARANCE. I'M OPEN FOR IDEAS


Hi, it is possible there is too much clearance. Some things that can cause grabbing are hydraulic oil leaking from wheel brake cylinder, excessive brake lining dust, or shoes not adjusted up to the drum. Your self-adjusters should be pulling the shoes up to the drum whenever you backup, but one or both may not be adjusting. You can manually adjust them if that is the case. Please inspect and check these items, and let me know if you have any questions.

Jun 26, 2011 | 1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera

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How do I get rear brake drum off?


You should jack up securely the rear end, and then remove the lugnuts to the wheels and remove the wheel.

Then, you may need a heavy hammer to tap on the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock positions of the rear brake drum to loosen it up.

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Here are instructions from Chilton/Haynes manual:

Drum Brakes Brake Drums Removal & Installation To Remove:
  1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the precautions in the beginning of this section.
  2. Raise the vehicle.
  3. Remove or disconnect the following:
    • Rear tire and wheel assembly
    • Brake drum retaining clips (if equipped).
    • Brake drum.
NOTE: If the drum does not come off, further brake clearance can be obtained by backing off the brake automatic adjuster screw. Remove the rubber plug from the top of brake support plate. Rotate the automatic adjuster screw in an upward motion, using a screwdriver.
To Install:
  1. Install or connect the following:
    • Rear brake drum onto the hub assembly
    • Wheels
  2. Adjust the brakes as necessary
  3. Road test vehicle to check brake operation.
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Feb 15, 2011 | 2001 Dodge Neon

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I need to adjust my rear brakes. 95 camaro


ADJUSTMENT
  1. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
  2. Remove the tire and wheel assemblies.
  3. Remove the brake drums.
  4. Set drum-to-brake shoe clearance gauge J 21177-A, or equivalent, so that is contacts the inside diameter of the brake drum. Fig. 1: Set the brake clearance gauge to the inside diameter of the brake drum . . . 88149g24.gif

  5. Position the gauge over the brake shoes. Fig. 2: . . . then place the gauge over the outside of the brake shoes 88149g25.gif

  6. Turn the brake adjuster until the brake shoes contact the clearance gauge. The outside diameter of the primary shoe and the secondary shoe will be about 0.050 in. (0.127mm) less than the inside diameter of the drum on each wheel.
  7. After the adjustment is complete, install the brake drum.
  8. Install the tire and wheel assemblies.
  9. Carefully lower the vehicle, then test drive the vehicle, making several stops applying a firm force to the brake pedal. Repeat this until good pedal reserve is built up.
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Jan 08, 2011 | 1995 Chevrolet Camaro

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We have replaced everything to do with the brakes, vacuum booster, master cylinder, etc. We have done a complete bleed and still have no pedal when we start the car. Any ideas


Hi Friend:

#1) Check and make sure your Power brake boosters Hose is not Cracked or just not a tight fit going to Intake.

#2) Since you Have Rear Drum Brakes You might have left to much Brake to Drum Clearance==Ajust rear Brakes out to Just give you good clearance to slide Drum Over Brakes.

#3) Check all your Brake Lines for Possible leaks.

#4) CHECK to make sure your Accuating Rod from your Brake Pedal to your Power Brake Booster is in the Rear of Boosters Piston that whenb you apply brake its Acctuating the Power Booster.

#5) Also did you bench bled your Master before instaling? If not you'll have to bled your master clylinder 1st, and then Start at farest wheel from master cylinder and work your way to the brakes on front Drivers side.

#6) only other thing that comes to mind is your Anti Brake Module.

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Thank and Good Luck d_hubbs

Sep 28, 2010 | 1994 Plymouth Sundance

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Finding the adjuster on drum brakes


The rear brakes have a self-adjusting mechanism that does not require adjustment for proper drum to shoe clearance when brake shoe has been replaced or brake drum has been removed for some other service.
Adjustment is automatically accomplished by depressing brake pedal 3–5 times after all parts are installed. Then check brake drum for dragging and brake system for proper performance.

Sep 13, 2010 | 1999 Chevrolet Metro

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2002 Silverado right rear wheel locking up.


You will need to have the parking brake adjusted to the minimum clearance possible and double check the shoes & drum while off.

It sounds as though the shoes are loose, they move forward, grab & unil you center the brakes by applying them and then they release until put into a bind again.

These usually don't get adjusted or even looked at since they are hidden inside the brake rotor hub on the rear wheels.

good luck.

Feb 15, 2010 | 2002 Chevrolet Silverado 1500

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Toyota Celica 1994 Driver side rear handbrake sticking in reverse


Yes, the brake shoe clearance has to be set at the minimum and the brake edges should be chamfered (angled) where it contacts metal in either direction, the shoes get hung in reverse if they are loose because of the movement of the entire brake assy, and they kind of get cocked & locked until you apply the brake. Once the brakes are adjusted correctly, there is no room for them to lock.

Try & pull up a hair on the handbrake lightly when this happens & it should remove the bind by centering the shoes within the drum.

Minimum brake clearance is the cure. Sometiimes if parts aren't replaced, the fit isn't perfect due to the lip remaining which prevents intalling the part at minimum clearance.

good luck

Feb 02, 2010 | 1998 Toyota Celica

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Park Brake Adjustment



Park Brake Adjustment (Disc Brake)

Tools Required

j 21177-A Drum-to-Brake Shoe Clearance Gage

Park Brake Shoe Adjustment

Caution: Refer to Brake Dust Caution.

Important: The park brake shoes must be adjusted before the park brake cable tension is adjusted.Set the J 21177-A so it contacts the inside diameter of the rotor
  1. Position the J 21177-A over the shoe and the lining at the widest point.
  2. Turn the adjuster nut until the lining just contacts the J 21177-A. Park brake shoe to brake rotor clearance: 0.6604 mm (0.026 in)
  3. Repeat steps 1-3 for the opposite side.
Park Brake Cable Tension Adjustment

Important: Before you adjust the park brake cable tension, verify that the park brake shoes are adjusted to provide a clearance of 0.6604 mm (0.026 in) and the rear disc brake rotors are installed.

  1. Verify the self adjuster lock-out pin has been removed.
  2. Fully apply and release the park brake pedal 3 times.

Feb 22, 2009 | 2007 GMC Sierra C/K2500

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