I cannot remove the spare tire from underneath the envoy. It seems to be hanging and can spin but it will not come off. I can't figure out how to remove the bracket that is holding it on.
Please help me :P
I had the same problem and the shop I took it to couldn't get it off either. But I opted for them not to cut it off and I took the truck home to diagnose what the problem was. So to make this short, I got the spare down and the only way you can do the same is by using a flat head screw driver, pliers, and some "Deep Creep" penetrating oil.
First: if you have the tire down the standard 2" or so, take your pliers and pull at the base of the cable "downwards". (the cable should free from the bracket under the tire that holds it up).
-Then spray penetrating oil around the bracket as this is what is causing it not to release. In the manual it suggests pushing it back up with the jack until it clicks to allow it to come down. Most likely this will not work as dirt and corrosion will freeze the mechanism that acts as the secondary lock.
-Take your jack and lift up your spare, holding the weight on the rim and not the bracket attached to the winch. This should free up the winch to allow movement. Then taking your flat head screw driver and you will likely need a flash light, look up into the hole where the cable comes from. You will see there are two little teeth attached to it inside holding it to the frame of the winch. First try prying the teeth away from the lip of the hole to allow the bracket to drop. If this doesn't work, then stick your flat head in between the sides of the arm attached to the teeth and pry outwards, allowing the arm to free up enough to allow movement.
This should drop your tire down and avoid the expense of buying another winch after cutting yours.
If you slide down the rubber boot over the winch on the top side of the wheel, you will find a plastic cover that you can pry out with a screw driver. This will allow access to the top side of the secondary lock. Rotate the tire / lock while feeling the top side. You will feel a "hook" riding on the perimeter of the hole in the winch. This hook is supposed to retract allowing the lock to lower thru the hole. You can take a hammer and rod and you can drive back the "hook". Be ready, the tire will drop immediately. I took a reciprocating saw and metal blade and cut off the hook feature. Now it is holding up my spare just fine without the secondary lock. Also, there is one 15mm bolt mounting the winch to the frame. If needed, you can also take off that bolt to release the tire and winch from the frame, then it is easier to work on.
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Since the spare is mounted under the rear of the car, Its not easy...you have to assemble the long crank rod out of its two pieces, then feed the rod through the hole in the top of the rear bumper and lock it into the mechanism that holds the tire in place. Once the crank rod is locked in, lower the tire towards the ground. Once the tire is low enough, you can crawl under the car and release the tire from its mount. The hardest part is locking the crank rod into the spare tire mechanism through the hole in the bumper.
Section 00-02: Lifting, Jacking and Spare Tire Stowage
1995 Aerostar, Ranger, Explorer Workshop Manual
Tire, Spare, Removal, Aerostar
If the Aerostar is a standard length vehicle the spare tire is mounted inside to a carrier at the left rear quarter panel. To remove the spare tire, remove the wing nut and plate. A flat tire can be temporarily stowed in the same location.
If the Aerostar is the bus with a standard length body or extended length (all models), the temporary spare tire is stowed at the rear of the vehicle under the body.
The Aerostar standard length E-4WD bus spare tire is mounted on the floor.
Insert lug nut wrench into the actuator hole and turn counterclockwise until the cable extends to allow the spare tire to be pulled rearward from under the vehicle.
Slide spare tire to the rear and remove the retainer from the wheel.
To stow cable/retainer with spare tire removed, insert cable fitting into carrier rear wall slot, place wheel retainer against the carrier, and turn lug nut wrench clockwise until slack is removed.
Rotate the hoist shaft counterclockwise in order to lower the spare
tire to the ground. Continue to rotate the shaft until the spare tire
can be pulled out from under the vehicle and removed. If the spare tire
does not lower to the ground, the secondary latch is engaged causing
the tire not to lower.
If the secondary latch is engaged and the cable end is visible, perform the following procedure:
the cable by rotating the hoist shaft clockwise until you hear 2 clicks
or feel it skip twice. You cannot overtighten the cable.
Loosen the cable by rotating the hoist shaft counterclockwise 3 or 4 turns.
If the spare tire can be lowered, repeat steps 1 and 2 to see if the spare tire can be removed.
the spare tire cannot be lowered, rotate the hoist shaft
counterclockwise until approximately 15 cm (6 in) of cable is exposed.
Raise and support the vehicle.
Place a transmission jack, or equivalent, under the spare tire.
the center of the transmission jack under the secondary latch release
button at the center of the spare tire. Arrange the arms of the
transmission jack so they will support the tire after it has been
Raise the jack until the spare tire stops moving upward and is firmly held in place, releasing the secondary latch.
the tire. If the spare tire is hanging by the cable, rotate the hoist
shaft counterclockwise until the tire is low enough to remove.
What's happening is that the latch is not releasing - a safety feature
so the tire doesn't drop down onto the road should the cable or assembly rust/break etc. While researching I got this info from another
forum: Jack up the rear of the van.
Wind the spare "up". now put your jack under the spare to support its
weight. Then "unwind" it. now look up through the spare to the winch
assembly. You'll see a latch at the back - towards the rear of the van.
Reach in with a long screwdriver and release it by moving it towards
the rear of the van. If you've unwound the winch you should be able to
move the plastic holder downwards. Once you've done this you can allow
the tire to come down and remove it. Now remove the winch assembly - 5
or 6 bolts. Odds are you'll see apiece of wire hanging or it may have
fallen out. You'll also see a spring clip - it clips onto the underside
so when you unwind the winch it should pull the aforementioned latch to
release the tire. You should be able to get this back in place by
fiddling with it, or just attach a wire to the latch to work it
manually. Or buy a new winch assembly - approx. $150. Good luck
If the spare tire does not lower to the ground,the secondary latch is engaged causing the tire not to lower Your vehicle has an underbody-mounted tire hoist assembly equipped with a secondary latch system.It is designed to stop the spare tire from suddenly falling off your vehicle if the cable holding the spare tire is damaged.For the secondary latch to work,the tire must be stored with the valve stem pointing up. 1.Check under the vehicle to see if the cable is visible.If it is not visible proceed to Step 6. 2.If visible,first try to tighten the cable by turning the wheel wrench clockwise until you hear two clicks or feel it skip twice.You cannot overtighten the cable. 3.Loosen the cable by turning the wheel wrench counterclockwise three or four turns. 4.Repeat this procedure at least two times.If the spare tire lowers to the ground continue with Step 2 of removing the Spare. 5.Turn the wrench counterclockwise until approximately 6 inches (15 cm) of cable is exposed. 6.Attach the jack handle,extension and the wheel wrench to the jack and place it under the vehicle towards the front of the rear bumper.Position the center lift point of the jack under the center of the spare tire. 7.Turn the wrench clockwise to raise the jack until it lifts the end fitting. 8.Continue raising the jack until the spare tire stops moving upward and is held firmly in place. 9.Lower the jack by turning the wheel wrench counterclockwise.Keep lowering the jack until the spare tire slides off the jack or is hanging by the cable. 10.Disconnect the jack handle from the jack and carefully remove the jack.Use one hand to push against the spare while firmly pulling the jack out from under the spare tire with the other hand.
Location of the spare tire and tools
The spare tire and tools for your vehicle are stowed in the following
Spare tire Under the vehicle, just forward of
the rear bumper
Jack assembly Under the third row bench seat in
the tool bag
Removing the jack and tools
1. Lift the 3rd row seat cushion.
2. Remove the jack assembly from the bag under the seat.
Removing the spare tire
1. Open the liftgate, locate the U-shaped slits in the carpet, and flip up
the piece of carpet to expose the hex nut.
2. Insert the lug nut wrench on the
hex nut in cargo floor.
3. Turn the wrench
counterclockwise until tire is
lowered to the ground and the cable
is slightly slack.
4. Remove the retainer from the
spare tire. It may be necessary to
lift one end of the tire to disengage
Not sure if you have figured out what the problem is yet but sometimes the bracket can rust and needs replaced. We had the same problem with our Envoy and had to have it towed to a dealer who replaced it for about 100-160. Its been awhile so I don't remember the atucal amount. Hope this helps!
Lift up the table or cover on spare tire and the plastic housing for the spare tire then lifts up (by removing some simple pins) and the jack is tucked underneath (next to bumper, but on the inside of the car).
I found the secret, The tire is suspended buy a cable on a winch, there is a nut on the right hand side under the carpet when you open the rear hath. You turn that counter clockwise to lower and you turn the support sideways trough the hole in rime of tire.