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Can you switch the drivers and passengers seat motor if one dies? (So my seat motor up and died on the drivers side of my car months ago. I'm trying to sell my car due to major financial need and this causes a problem because I'm very tall so the seat is all the way back - not easy to sell a car that you need a booster seat in, haha. I don't have the money to replace it but I can do most labor myself - if I know it can be done... but I don't wanna start that mission if there's no way it could work..) Thanks!! :-)
The problem is most likely caused by shorted heating grids in the seat cushion itself, kind of like the heating element in an electric blanket, very expensive to replace.
at temperatures such as yu mentioned the car will almost certainly suffer some sort of electrical problems as microchips which controll all your electricals are prone to breaking and loosing functionality. it could be either. if you can take motor off or access the main wires at the back of it and try direct connection to the battery and see if it responds. if not then it will definitley be a fuse.
i would check your ignition system. you would need a meter for this but look for broke or loose connections. if it was a fuel problem i dont think it would just start up after 20 minutes. or you might try your ignition switch. if its shorting or something then ya well it would cut your engine off real quick
No.The drivers master power switch is probably bad.YOu will have to perform a test on the three other switches on the master. Check for power and ground when you push each putton.If the master switch fails the test you need a new master switch.
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Heated Seats
This system allows independent seat electrical heating of each front seat on demand.
The components of the system are:
the seat heater mats located on the seat cushion and backrest.
the heated seat module located on the passenger power seat track and cushion frame on manual seat track.
the heated seat switches, located on the electronic automatic temperature control (EATC) module.
temperature sensors, located in the seat cushion heater mats.
A new heater mat will come assembled on a new foam pad. Climate Controlled Seats
The climate control seat system is able to heat and cool the front seats. Each climate controlled seat is operated by push-buttons on the electronic automatic temperature control (EATC) module located on the instrument panel. Each front seat temperature is then monitored and controlled by the climate control seat module (CCSM) located on the front passenger seat track.
The climate controlled seat system contains the following components:
EATC module
CCSM
Thermo-electric device (TED) and blower assembly within each front seat cushion and backrest
Air filter (attached to each TED and blower assembly)
Cushion TED adapter attached to the cushion frame
Cushion and backrest manifolds
Cushion and backrest foam pads
Cushion and backrest trim covers
Seats
Front Seats NOTE: The high speed controller area network (HS-CAN) circuits that pass through the passenger seat harness are part of the main HS-CAN LOOP. If the front passenger seat-to-floor connectors are disconnected, a NO START condition will result. NOTE: The medium speed controller area network (MS-CAN) circuits that pass through the driver seat harness are part of the main MS-CAN LOOP. If the front driver seat-to-floor connectors are disconnected, various MS-CAN modules will not be able to communicate.
The front seats can be equipped with the following systems:
Two-way manual seat track (passenger only)
Four-way manual seat track (driver only)
Six-way power seat track
Manual recline
Power recline
Backrest, without fold flat
Backrest with fold flat (optional, passenger only)
Heated seats
Heated/cooled climate controlled seats
Memory driver seat
Manual lumbar (driver only)
Power lumbar
Adjustable head restraints
Seat side air bags (standard)
Occupant classification sensor (OCS) system on passenger seat
Driver Seat Module - Memory Seat
The power driver seat, power outside rear view mirrors and power adjustable pedals are controlled by the driver seat module (DSM) only when the vehicle is equipped with the programmable/recall memory option. The DSM is located on the driver seat track.
This system allows automatic positioning of the driver seat to 2 programmable positions.
A power driver seat position can be stored at any time. The driver must move the seat to the desired position using the driver seat switch assembly. The driver must then depress the memory SET switch which activates the memory SET switch light emitting diode (LED). Within 5 seconds (before the LED goes out), the driver must select a memory position. Memory 1 is selected by depressing memory switch 1. Memory 2 is selected by depressing memory switch 2.
If no memory switch input is received within the 5-second time limit, the operation is aborted and the memory seat position switch (set switch) LED is turned OFF. This also occurs if one of the following inputs is received during the 5-second programming limit:
Driver seat control switch
Memory seat position switch (set switch)
Power adjustable pedal switch
A programmed seat position can only be recalled when the transmission selector is in PARK or NEUTRAL with the ignition switch in the RUN position. A position may be programmed at any time.
Principles of Operation Driver and Passenger Power Seats Without Memory
The driver and front passenger power seat motors are hardwired to the seat control switches on each respective seat. The circuits are normally at ground through the seat control switch. Each individual seat track, recliner (if equipped) and lumbar (if equipped) motor circuit is switched to power when the specific adjustment position is selected.
Power Driver Seat With Memory
The driver power seat is controlled by the driver seat module (DSM), if equipped. The memory driver seat feature allows the driver to program a personalized seat position that can be recalled using the memory switch or a remote keyless entry (RKE) transmitter. There are 2 memory settings possible. The outside rear view mirror positions are also stored and recalled with the power driver seat positions.
The DSM is located underneath the driver seat cushion frame. The DSM does not require calibration to the driver seat track.
The driver seat control switch provides voltage to the DSM when activated. The NEUTRAL position of each driver seat control switch position is a ground state through the seat control switch contacts. A voltage input causes the DSM to power the appropriate motor until the input is removed. Ground is the normal state of the motor circuits through the DSM and is not switched to control the motors. The DSM internally switches the appropriate circuit from ground to power for operating the motors.
As the seat is adjusted, the DSM constantly monitors the motor position sensors to record the current seat position. The DSM will remove power from the motor upon termination of the seat control switch input or if the DSM does not see movement from the motor by monitoring the position sensor.
The DSM communicates diagnostic trouble code (DTC) and other information using the MS-CAN communication bus. It should be noted for diagnostics that because CAN bus communication is more robust and reliable than other methods, it may be possible to have limited module communication with one of the CAN bus circuits disconnected or shorted to ground. Refer to Section 418-00 for information concerning MS-CAN bus communication.
Do you have memory or not ?
Taking the vehicle to a qualified repair shop an having a diagnostic scan of the seat module's done could save time an money , by not replacing parts needlessly .
The electric motors that powered your seat to make it move in those different ways has now died so what you need to do is replace your electric motors underneath your seat and it will be working properly again
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Each system is bad. The windows need regulators(they come with motors) the radio probably died(check fuse). And the mirror switch is bad(Since you still have power to the drivers window).
Three things to look at. The control switch, the motor and the fuse. Sometimes the wiring connector under the seat can become unplugged by some object under the seat watch the dome light when you operate the seat switch. If it flickers when you try to move the seat the motor is bound up. Sometimes lubricating the seat track will help. Otherwise it's the motor
the windows are not on the same fuse, you need a new window regulator. find one new on eBay or a prts store and pay an auto glass shop to put it in. it is a common GM part, but will be very expensive aty a GM dealer.
the seat heater generally is not going to make it to ten years. it is the same technology as a toaster or electric blanket. either the heater element has burned through or the thermostat is AFU.
note the units which are used most frequently are usually the first to die. every part in that car is going to die from age or use. most likely someone could pull the thermostat out of the passenger seat, if so equipped, and put it in the driver seat. otherwise it is just not worth fixing the seat.
It could be , but to replace it without testing would not be a wise idea . These modules can set DTC'S - diagnostic trouble code's .Having a qualified repair shop check it would be your best bet .
It's called driver seat module . DSM Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index
DSM Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index
DTC
Description
Source
Action
B1342
ECU Is Faulted
DSM
INSTALL a new DSM. REFER to Section 419-10 .
B1530
Memory Set Switch Circuit Short to Ground
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1534
Memory 1 Switch Circuit Short to Ground
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1538
Memory 2 Switch Circuit Short to Ground
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1663
Seat Driver Front Up/Down Motor Stalled
DSM
If the motor does not operate, Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition). If motor operates, Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1664
Seat Driver Rear Up/Down Motor Stalled
DSM
If the motor does not operate, Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition). If motor operates, Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1665
Seat Driver Forward/Backward Motor Stalled
DSM
If the motor does not operate, Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition). If motor operates, Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1666
Seat Recline Forward/Rearward Motor Stalled
DSM
If the motor does not operate, Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator). If motor operates, Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1667
Mirror Driver Up/Down Motor Stalled
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B1668
Mirror Driver Right/Left Motor Stalled
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B1669
Mirror Passenger Up/Down Motor Stalled
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B1670
Mirror Passenger Right/Left Motor Stalled
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B1676
Battery Voltage Out of Range
DSM
REFER to Section 414-00 .
B1703
Seat Driver Recline Forward Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator).
B1707
Seat Driver Recline Rearward Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator).
B1711
Seat Driver Front Up Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition).
B1715
Seat Driver Front Down Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition).
B1719
Seat Driver Forward Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition).
B1723
Seat Driver Rearward Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition).
B1727
Seat Driver Rear Up Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition).
B1731
Seat Driver Rear Down Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test H (Navigator) or Go To Pinpoint Test I (Expedition).
B1735
Mirror Driver Vertical Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B1739
Mirror Driver Horizontal Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B1743
Mirror Passenger Vertical Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B1747
Mirror Passenger Horizontal Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B1950
Seat Rear Up/Down Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1952
Seat Rear Up/Down Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1954
Seat Front Up/Down Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1956
Seat Front Up/Down Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1958
Seat Recline Fwd/Backward Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1961
Seat Recline Fwd/Backward Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Short to Ground
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1962
Seat Horizontal Forward/Rearward Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1964
Seat Horizontal Forward/Rearward Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
Go To Pinpoint Test J .
B1987
Pedal Forward / Rearward Motor Stalled
DSM
REFER to Section 206-00 .
B1988
Pedal Position Forward Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 206-00 .
B1989
Pedal Position Rearward Switch Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 206-00 .
B1990
Pedal Forward/Rearward Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
REFER to Section 206-00 .
B1991
Pedal Forward/Rearward Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 206-00 .
B2312
Mirror Passenger Horizontal Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B2314
Mirror Passenger Horizontal Feedback Potentiometer Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B2316
Mirror Passenger Vertical Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B2318
Mirror Passenger Vertical Feedback Potentiometer Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B2320
Mirror Driver Horizontal Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B2322
Mirror Driver Horizontal Feedback Potentiometer Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B2324
Mirror Driver Vertical Feedback Potentiometer Circuit Failure
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B2326
Mirror Driver Vertical Feedback Potentiometer Short to Battery
DSM
REFER to Section 501-09 .
B2477
Module Configuration Failure
DSM
INSTALL a new DSM.
if motor seemed to slowly get worse over time then there is a great chance that the motor is gone. You will have to unplug the motor and test for power at the motors connector. if the power is good when switch is activated then the motor is dead, but if no power is found then you either have a bad switch or connector or a wiring harness problem. It will not be the fuses since the driver and passenger seats are the same. also one more thing to check is if your vehicle has memory seats then if no power is found at motor, this memory module mounted to seat could be the problem..
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