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1997 ford expedition wont stay running?

Was talking with paul last night and he gave me some test to do on my solenoid. Posted results .

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  • randallsperk Nov 24, 2008

    why the vehicle wont stay running, dies after 2 seconds. The starter solenoid. Thanks Randall

  • randallsperk Nov 24, 2008

    All the cables are fine, the solenoid works because it "pops" to turn the starter. The starter works because it cranks the vehicle. The problem is it dies after 2 seconds. Thanks Randall

  • randallsperk Nov 24, 2008

    car already has new fuel filter.

  • randallsperk Nov 24, 2008

    I havn't rated anyone yet. I'm still waiting for an answer! All I did was repost the question. Thanks Randall

  • randallsperk Nov 24, 2008

    paul was with "Fastboys" thats all I know

  • randallsperk Nov 24, 2008

    the throttle is responsive in the 2 sec. it's running. Thanks Randall

  • randallsperk Nov 24, 2008

    It is a full stall almost like you turn the ignition off, same amount of time every time> Runs perfect for the short amount of time its on.

  • randallsperk Nov 24, 2008

    I say it runs perfect for 2 seconds- but it does idle high around 3000 before stall.

  • randallsperk Nov 25, 2008

    I'm going to check this fuel ign. switch theory sounds like a good possibilty. Is there a way to test this with starter fluid to see if it stays cranked spraying it in the throttle body or a bad idea? Process of elimination. THANKS Randall

  • randallsperk Nov 25, 2008

    sound like a very good possiblity, thanks for your time. Thanks Randall

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Hello
sorry i just got home from work.
what did you find out when you removed one of the smaller wires from the solonoid.
and have you tried to start it with the mass airflow sensor unplugged?

Posted on Nov 25, 2008

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    paul erickson Nov 25, 2008

    let me give you a few more tests so we can check when the fuel pump is running

    find your inerta switch should be on the passenger side kick pannel.

    usual it is marked on the plastic cover you have to remove.

    what we are going to do here is check the power that is going to the fuel pump.

    so you will need a test light.

    you will see this 2 wire switch

    check your power at the switch

    turn the key on but do not start do you have power for a short time?

    now try to start and watch the light when the light is lit the fuel pump should be running

    what i want to know is if the truck still dies and if the test light is on?

    let me know later paul

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    paul erickson Nov 25, 2008

    i never like the use of stsrte fluid for this kind of dianostics its unsafe.

    you could run a power wire to the inerta switch and this would power up the fuel pump in a safe way and then start and run to make sure that we are on the right track.

    let me know how it goes



    also emissionwiz is a very good guy with alot of knowledge on ford products.



    later paul

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There has to be a block in the fuel lines!! everything else is checking out fine


regards

Posted on Nov 24, 2008

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    Lee Hodgson Nov 24, 2008

    can you rev the engine while on turn over?

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    Lee Hodgson Nov 24, 2008

    no fuel block then if the car can be throttled up, i would now be considering the fact that it might be an electronic fault, as many cars are literally run by computer chips.
    A computer diagnostic may be in order

    regards


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There's also a chance that the air filter is extremely dirty.please replace the fuel filter to solve the problem.

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Check all of the battery terminals and cables and check the wires on the starter/selonoid, start from the battery and follow the cable out and check all conections , clean and tighten them and if it still does it the starter/selonoid is bad and needs replacement

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What is the question? which solenoid are you referring to?

Posted on Nov 24, 2008

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    yadayada Nov 24, 2008

    You did not provide all the info, the rating is unfair since you Handy-capped me with such little info, now you can fix it yourself, I am a Ford factory tech and just lost me as a fix source.

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    yadayada Nov 24, 2008

    Who the heck is Paul????

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    yadayada Nov 24, 2008

    Well there is a thanks for trying rating next to my name.

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    yadayada Nov 24, 2008

    The info you provide is really vague, please give more info about the issue, is it a hesitation or a full stall, come on help us to help you.

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    yadayada Nov 24, 2008

    Have you run a trouble code retrieval test on the fuel injection computer?? Try disconnecting the MAF sensor and see if it runs better, if it does then the problem is with the MAF sensor, the MAF is in the air intake hose to the engine, fairly big with a multi-wire connector on it.

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    yadayada Nov 24, 2008

    Sounds like a massive engine vacuum leak or a stuck open idle air control valve, vacuum leak is more likely, that would account for the high idle, still not enough info from you.

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    yadayada Nov 24, 2008

    Also check the ignition switch, sounds like the fuel pump run circuit is not working, there are 2 ways the pump gets power, when it cranks it gets power from one set of ignition switch contacts, when it starts and you let go of crank the the fuel pump gets power from a diff set of ign switch contacts, the switched comes apart where it is crimped togearher and causes this problem, the engine will run a short time until the fuel in the lines is used up and then stall.

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    yadayada Nov 25, 2008

    The best way is to hook up a fuel press guage to the injector fuel rail, there is a valve there, it looks like a metal tire valve, the test guage can be borrowed from Kragen Auto Zone and others like Pep Boys, or so I am told. Then start the engine and see if the fuel pressure stays up, if not the ignition switch is located at the base of the steering column, you will need to drop the column down to access it, if it is separated you should see it fairly easily.

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