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Electrical system on after car is off

Mechanic said either gem or fuse panel is bad

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  • firstout2964 Dec 11, 2008

    The interior lights will not turn off even when the vehicle is turned off

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    yadayada May 11, 2010

    I doubt that

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Did you recently have a sterio wired up cause most them wires to the sterio also run the electronics but overall i believe that someone crossed the pcm wire to the main computer which electrical is staying on

the other thing is the pcm relay is bad
also the door light pin when you close the door is stuck open when door shut after opened i had this same problem i just replaced the door light switch

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  1. Visually inspect for the following obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage.

    Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
    • Switch(es)
    • Fuse(s)
    • Damaged wiring harness
    • Loose or corroded connections
    • Circuitry
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If it happened at the same time...

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Inspection and Verification
  1. The power windows system is a generic electronic module (GEM) controlled system.
  1. Verify the customer concern by operating the power window system.
  1. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage; refer to the following chart:


Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
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    • check the connections to the vehicle.
    • check the ignition switch position.
  1. If the scan tool still does not communicate with the vehicle, refer to the scan tool manual.
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3) If this isn't the issue, it's possible a relay is bad. They should be located with your fuse panel and can be replaced easily. You can get them from any auto parts store for a modest price.
4) If you've replaced the relays and the fuses and still have the issue, it's possible it's the GEM module. This is quite a bit trickier and you'll likely need a qualified mechanic to replace it. I'd recommend taking it to a mechanic before trying the GEM module because it might also be a short in the wiring. Either way, leave those jobs for the pros.

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2002 taurus. don't have 2005. Sorry.

Could be your GEM module. Call your dealer and ask if your 2005 has GEM module. It's expensive so be sure it is problem first.

Dealer can test with NGS tool.

CAUTION: Once the new module is installed, it is necessary to download the module configuration information from the diagnostic tool equipment into the new module. For additional information, refer to Section 418-01 .

Principles of Operation
The generic electronic module (GEM) constantly monitors its subsystems for concerns. If a concern is found in one of the subsystems, the GEM will record the concern in the form of a diagnostic trouble code (DTC).
The ignition switch position is very important to the GEM functionality. Erratic or unexpected GEM functions can often be traced to problems with these ignition GEM inputs.
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Inspection and Verification
  1. Verify the customer concern by operating the system.
  1. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage.


Visual Inspection Chart Electrical
  • Central junction box (CJB) fuse 216 (15A)
  • Damaged wiring harness
  • Loose or corroded connector(s)
  • Circuitry
  • Generic electronic module (GEM)

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