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New cluster assembly installed, now ABS lights on & ABS not worki

We have a 2003 yukon xl.  It had a recall because of speedometer problems.  Ours would work in the summer, but when it got cold in the winter, it quit functioning.  So we have had that repaired.  After only about 8 months, however, everything quit working (needles and lights) when it got cold last week.  As the car warmed up, everything started working again.  Nevertheless, we decided to take it back again for another cluster assembly.  Since the temperature had warmed up, all of the gages were working fine when we took the car in.  As always, we could not demonstrate the problem for the repair shop but they knew what we were talking about.  When we took the car in, all of the gages worked fine.  After the car was repaired, and when we drove off the lot, the ABS lights would not go out.  Took it back the next day and they told us this ABS problem was unrelated (something about codes), could not have been caused by anything they did, that the timing of the failure was sheer happenstance, and the repair would cost in excess of $1,400 to fix.  This story seems hard to believe (the abs system began malfunctioning while the car was on their lot, but has no relation to anything they did), but I know virtually nothing about cars.  I need help!  Thanks.

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  • khedrick976 Nov 20, 2008

    The codes I was given were the following: C0298, P1571, P1689, P1626. Thanks for any help you can give in this regard. As I said earlier, it is just hard to imagine that the some unrelated failure occurred at that the exact time my car was on the GMC lot.

  • khedrick976 Nov 20, 2008

    Thanks for the assist. But here is my problem. I cannot possibly fix my car. I am simply attempting to determine if GMC is responsible for the problem I am now experiencing. This problem did not exist when I drove the car onto the lot -- it existed when I drove it off. They say it is no fault of theirs. The car is out of extended warranty and the cost is $1,400 for the repair they suggest. Is this their responsibility? Mine? GMC's? Am I just out of luck? Thanks.

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Based on what you say its the mechanics at fault here, funny how a 4 - 5 year old car has developed so many problems while at the garage/service centre. If you are paying or have payed for ongoing work on the car, then as a consumer you well within your rights to demand that the problems are sorted for you at no extra cost. Being a newish car, them most likely the car has to go through some kind of computer diagnostic to locate and resolve the problem. was any computer diagnostic performed at all? whether these clusters are a bad design or not, it should now be up to the garage or service centre to rectify the problem

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There is a common issue with the 1999-2005 Grand Am with the ABS/Traction Control system. The problem ranges from being intermittent, usually during slow-speed turning maneuvers, to constant, every time you drive the car.

The problem usually is tied to the wheel speed sensors, or the electrical connections to these sensors. The front seem more problem-prone than the rear. The preliminary step usually involves removing the wheels and inspecting the wiring and connector If everything looks intact continue on.

Usually with this problem you can disconnect the connector, clean the contacts, give it a dab of dielectric grease, and reassemble. The wheel speed sensor is part of the hub assembly (wheel bearing) and can not be purchased seperatly.

Now with code P1571 - Electronic brake control module torque signal request, range, or performance problem. I think you need a new EBCM. which isn't going to be cheap and so I suggest you go with what GM says as it sounds like they knew what they were talking about when told you and were not at fault as it is a common enough occurrence

P1689 - Traction Control Module which is related

P1626 - not to worry about

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Unhook the hot cable <+> for 60sec the rehook it up this should reset the codes when they changed the cluster they did not reset the codes

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  • Joshua Davis Nov 21, 2008

    it was there fault getting them to relize that is the prob my best knowlege to you is get a lawer for small claims

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Hey dude


Lnk to the code list , error and how to rectify this...............


http://www.repairprocedures.com/dir/docs/2001/84/2073/210/4/1330/6.html



Thx and regards.
Ba bye.

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    taran_2005 Nov 20, 2008

    Hey dude,







    If u honestly ask me all these error codes are related to circuits.





    Read the pdf file for the meaning of these error codes :-



    https://www.realtruck.com/shared/pdf/man...





    It wld help u to take decision to hold the responsible.............



    "PAGE NO. 19".......................



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    taran_2005 Nov 20, 2008

    And i believe "The mechanic should be responsible for the same"...........





    B'coz if this might have been ur or GM fault, all the faults must b interlinked and these error wld take some time. These errors altogether cannot come at one go.



    https://www.realtruck.com/shared/pdf/man...





    ANY HEP, JUST BUZZ ME UP.



    and one of my friends are working for GM. Let me talk to him and discuss and than i wld get back to u.





    Thnx.

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    taran_2005 Nov 20, 2008

    And i would also tell u, is that neccessary to resert these codes, wld it affect ur GM motor or not and after talking to him, i would be able to clarify the charge that should be charged if these errors are there.



    KIndly bear with me for any delay :)





    ******take care bro*************

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I know these clusters have a history of going bad...I've replaced a few myself, They are rebuilt so it's not impossibe that another one is bad. The only thing that fails more frequently than the cluster is the EBCM probably code C0265 C0266. This is the electronic brake control module....1200.00 or so here. There is nothing anyone can do to cause one to fail. The're on all chevy and GM trucks and some cars and just a bad design.As far as the timing they might have cleared codes or pulled the battery cable to do the cluster job and reset the code in the ABS module. Ultimately I would need to know the code and what is being replaced for 1400.00

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The actual cause was a defective wheel speed sensor which when replaced reset the indicators. 

Posted on Nov 19, 2008

  • smarttech Nov 19, 2008

    also sounds like a wheel speed sensor has gone out you will need ot replace the wheel bearing. 

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