Question about 2001 Pontiac Grand Am SE
We have a 2003 yukon xl. It had a recall because of speedometer problems. Ours would work in the summer, but when it got cold in the winter, it quit functioning. So we have had that repaired. After only about 8 months, however, everything quit working (needles and lights) when it got cold last week. As the car warmed up, everything started working again. Nevertheless, we decided to take it back again for another cluster assembly. Since the temperature had warmed up, all of the gages were working fine when we took the car in. As always, we could not demonstrate the problem for the repair shop but they knew what we were talking about. When we took the car in, all of the gages worked fine. After the car was repaired, and when we drove off the lot, the ABS lights would not go out. Took it back the next day and they told us this ABS problem was unrelated (something about codes), could not have been caused by anything they did, that the timing of the failure was sheer happenstance, and the repair would cost in excess of $1,400 to fix. This story seems hard to believe (the abs system began malfunctioning while the car was on their lot, but has no relation to anything they did), but I know virtually nothing about cars. I need help! Thanks.
Based on what you say its the mechanics at fault here, funny how a 4 - 5 year old car has developed so many problems while at the garage/service centre.
If you are paying or have payed for ongoing work on the car, then as a consumer you well within your rights to demand that the problems are sorted for you at no extra cost.
Being a newish car, them most likely the car has to go through some kind of computer diagnostic to locate and resolve the problem. was any computer diagnostic performed at all?
whether these clusters are a bad design or not, it should now be up to the garage or service centre to rectify the problem
Posted on Nov 20, 2008
There is a common issue with the 1999-2005 Grand Am with the
ABS/Traction Control system. The problem ranges from being intermittent, usually during slow-speed turning maneuvers, to constant,
every time you drive the car.
The problem usually is tied to the wheel speed sensors, or the electrical connections to these sensors. The front seem more problem-prone than the rear. The preliminary step usually involves removing the wheels and inspecting the wiring and connector If everything looks intact continue on.
Usually with this problem you can disconnect the connector, clean the contacts, give it a dab of dielectric grease, and reassemble. The wheel speed sensor is part of the hub assembly (wheel bearing) and can not be purchased seperatly.
Now with code P1571 - Electronic brake control module torque signal request, range, or performance problem. I think you need a new EBCM. which isn't going to be cheap and so I suggest you go with what GM says as it sounds like they knew what they were talking about when told you and were not at fault as it is a common enough occurrence
P1689 - Traction Control Module which is related
P1626 - not to worry about
Posted on Nov 20, 2008
Lnk to the code list , error and how to rectify this...............
Thx and regards.
Posted on Nov 20, 2008
I know these clusters have a history of going bad...I've replaced a few myself, They are rebuilt so it's not impossibe that another one is bad. The only thing that fails more frequently than the cluster is the EBCM probably code C0265 C0266. This is the electronic brake control module....1200.00 or so here. There is nothing anyone can do to cause one to fail. The're on all chevy and GM trucks and some cars and just a bad design.As far as the timing they might have cleared codes or pulled the battery cable to do the cluster job and reset the code in the ABS module. Ultimately I would need to know the code and what is being replaced for 1400.00
Posted on Nov 19, 2008
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Posted on Jan 02, 2017
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