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Rear diff pinion seal replacement, preload torque

Hi I would like to know if there is an easy way to get the right preload after replacing the rear diff pinion seal in a 1990 Toyota Celica gt-4 st185 (4WD) as I don't have a torque wrench?

If not then what torque should the preload be at? and how do I measure it?

Thanks a lot
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Just yank it up tight with a bar about 50cms long,their should be collapsable spacer between the taper bearings just tighten it like a professional without overtightening it so and shearing something .handfull of grease in the diff casing to slow/stop any oil leaks top up with ep 90 and away you go,the crownwheel to pinion setting is just a little wiggle woggle ,or you could use a dial gauge but its quicker and easier ,too tight and it whines and too much play and it clunks,nice little wiggle woggle and it will work fine .trust me

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