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Anonymous Posted on Mar 21, 2012

01 diamante egr

Idles rough, sevice engine light on, EGR valve and solenoid replaced. What is in the vacuum circuit before the EGR solenoid? Auto repair place blocked the line to the solenoid to make it run 50% better.

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  • Anonymous Mar 23, 2012

    Codes are P0174, P0171, P0401

  • Anonymous Mar 26, 2012

    Were are the O2 sensors located? Intake, exhaust? How do you use a multimeter to check them?

  • Colin Stickland
    Colin Stickland Mar 26, 2012

    the O2 sensors are in the exhaust pipe one before the cat and one after depending on country its sold in as some only have one ,what you do is to disconnect the multilpug ,then assuming its a 4 wire then their are two wires the sma e colour possibly white ,check for a 12v feed from engine loom with ignition on ,then the other loose end from the sensor check for continuety across the same two wires ,now the other two you push a pin through and connect the plug then start engine and you should read a voltage across these two that varies with RPM ,different vehicles can show a different voltage but if i remember rightly then its somewhere around the 5 volts up and down a bit .Right star trek is about to start so .Three wire is the same but the third wire you put the other probe to earth .right theme music starting

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You have a weak mixture so a fault with the O2 sensors is more likely to be your proble as this is what the codes 171/174 mean and 401 is insufficient gas recycling ,use a multimeter to check the O2 sensors ,so reply if they have three wires or four wires and i will explain how to check them as theyr like 90euros for the 3 wire and 50 euros for the four wire one trade price from a auto factor ,retail?

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SOURCE: Mirage Mitsubishi 2000 1.8L Rough Miss when Idle

Might want to look for vacuum leaks. Most misfires that go away with gas are caused by manifold vacuum leaks. The cat code can also be caused by the vac leak. There are different methods to find them and not real easy-but one way is to get a can of carb cleaner spray and spritz around intake areas. When the carb cleaner finds the leak--the car will run good for just and instant. Could be a rubber line or a manifold gasket. Hope it helped. Thanks

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  • Posted on May 30, 2009

SOURCE: EGR Valve needs cleaning or replacing

The link below is a diagram of the EGR valve. Looks like a mushroom with vacuum lines attached.

http://www.chiltonlibrary.com/content/images/8666/images/86664018.gif

Instructions:

  • Label and disconnect the hoses from the valve. Carefully loosen and remove the retaining bolts, remembering that they are probably heat-seized and rusty. Use penetrating oil freely.
  • Remove the valve and clean the gasket remains from both mating surfaces.
  • Inspect the valve for any sign of carbon deposits or other cause of binding or sticking. The valve must close and seal properly; the pintle area may be cleaned with solvent to remove soot and carbon.

  • I hope this answers your question. Best of luck.
    Greg

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    • Posted on Feb 11, 2010

    SOURCE: EGR CODE P0401,IF I APLLY VACUUM TO THE EGR VAVLE

    The mechanical components of the egr themselves may be fine, but the electrical circuit that moves the egr may be faulty. now if the egr valve uses vaccum to operate, then it may be sticking just enough to throw a code.

    ZJLimited

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    • Posted on Mar 18, 2010

    SOURCE: how to clean/check the egr valve

    When the EGR VALVE is clogged or malfunctioning, it can cause irregularities in engine performance such as rough idling or valve knock, indicating that the EGR valve should be inspected.
    The EGR valve works by routing a small amount of exhaust back into the combustion chamber. When the temperature in the combustion chamber is too high, nitrogen oxides are produced, which combine with elements in the atmosphere to form smog. Introducing a small amount of exhaust into the system reduces the temperature in the combustion chamber, reducing the amount of nitrogen oxides produced.

    Many EGR valves are mechanical, and simply have a small valve which opens to allow exhaust into the combustion chamber and closes when it is not necessary, and to keep the air mixture optimal for combustion. Some mechanical versions will not open until there is sufficient back pressure, ensuring that the valve will not be open when the engine is idle or warming up and needs a higher concentration of oxigen for combustion. Electronic EGR valves are also available, and use electronics to regulate the valve.

    If the EGR valve is stuck open, it will essentially cause a vacuum leak, leading to inefficient combustion, rough idling, hesitation, and sometimes stalling in extreme cases. This is because the car cannot combust on carbon dioxide from the tailpipe — it needs atmospheric oxygen. If the combustion chamber is flooded with exhaust from an open EGR valve, it will not function properly. To check and see if the EGR valve is stuck open, have someone idle a parked vehicle with the brake on while you examine the plunger shaft to see if it is stuck open.
    If the EGR valve is stuck closed, emissions of nitrogen oxides will rise, and the car may start to knock. Spark knock happens when the fuel mixture in the combustion chamber ignites before it has been reached by the explosion in the cylinder, resulting in a disruption of the engine timing. In this instance, the engine should be warmed up and revved to see if the EGR valve will move.

    In both cases, simple repairs are possible. The EGR valve can be clogged, and a simple cleaning of a mechanical EGR valve may solve the problem. In the case of an electrically controlled EGR valve or a more complex mechanical problem, replacement of the valve may be needed. The EGR valve is an expensive motor vehicle component, and care should be taken to ensure that it needs to be replaced rather than repaired. A reputable mechanic should advise you appropriately.

    Failure to repair or replace the EGR valve will not lead to a life threatening condition, although it will reduce the life of your car and increase the potential emissions. Especially in areas which require smog testing, an automobile with a malfunctioning EGR valve may not pass

    HERE can find one video about this subject.

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