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2004 sprinter Black smoke

Water in fuel.drain tank replaced 5 injectors hoses ,egr ...ect .....dealer had it five days still want run rigth.blows black smoke.Area rep says to find older injectors to allow computer correct ...Does this sound right? Have I been towed to the wrong place......Help

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  • buddyma Nov 04, 2008

    Thanks for your help....The fuel was purcahed at a truck stop.20 gallons.The problem was notices 40 miles later when i stopped at arest area.hard restart got it up to highway speed set c/control @65 mph drove another 60 miles,smooth ruff idle at end of off ramp,able to get into parking lot in middle of the nite.Next am called had it towed to dealership.Drained fuel filter sample shows milky white sample,they claimed water in fuel.They explined it would run as long as the engine was hot and fuel pressure was high.The rest is as stated needs 5 injectors, hoses , added EGR thinkinmg it was stuck open.Last report today from dealership still ruff idle still black smoke.......................................Do you think I need a new tech?

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Is the ceck engine light on and if so what codes exist.......a bad resonator or carge air hose can cause the black smoke. where are you located

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Assume diesel engine ? so if water was in fuel ? the engine would not run even b4 it got to engine because fuel filter would rstrict diesel due to water on filter element ? can i just say that from your symptoms ? black smoke/engine runs but poor ? the fact it is black smoke? is most due to lack of air flow to manifold remove air filter element and see if smoke clears? if element of filter has got wet ie floods? it will not allow air through? make sure there is no other restriction/s on filter inlet and outlet pipe to manifold espcially check now for any weakness on pipe to engine from filter ie when you rev up look to see if hose is sucking together due to vacuum created by revs of engine? if injectors were defect ? the smoke would be blue due to over fuel injection ie injectors not atomizing correctly ? i would suspect problem is lack of air? out of curiosity?? how did water enter fuel tank ?? if any more info you can provide it may give better idea of problem ?

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  • silver top Nov 05, 2008

    hello again i am surprised that dealer only drained off the fuel filter of water/contaminatedfuel? when they should have canged the fuel filter ? as i mentioned once the element which is a card type and has microscopic holes to filter fuel of any foreign matter once this element becomes cntaminated with water ? it damages and restrics fuel from passing thro just the same as air filter elements of the same construction ? to prove a point ? if you have vac cleaner with dust bag? and it is not necessarily full but used ? the suction becomes less effective ? so if you empyy bag of dust? then refit you would expect vacuum to be better?? NOT SO however fit a new bag? and see difference simply old bags micro holes are blocked and air/vac cannot escape thro holes due to dust block hope this is understandable but fact i am surprised that dealers suspect it was fuel from truck stop 20 galls? is cause? may i suggest you descreatly enquire at this station if they have had any prob's with other customers using their fuel ? at the same time i am still of the opinion that your engine has a problem with restriction on air supply which is giving black smoke here in uk we have had numerous flooded roads recently and had cars break down with water entering filters for air positioned under front wheel arch !! and shutting down also some clowns in renault clio's driving through with high revs water deep and drawing water into engine resulting in BANG engine hydro locked nacked! so beware of deep floods as for the water in fuel? this would not reach the injectors/pump due to filter it would suffer fuel starve before hand and you say the journey milage you travelled suprised me you got so far ? you do not mention if the engine management light came on on dash? i would see if the dealer comes up with solution but do not let them keep renewing parts at your expense ? and still same i would appreciate your update if any on whether pproblem solved? wish you luck and a rapid solution? appreciate you need van asap ?

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