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Barry M. Oshiro Posted on Feb 29, 2012
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Sometimes the starter don`turn

Then when I play with the wire harness that connects to the starter, then it will start.

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If you have to play with the harness to get it to start, there is a dead or broken spot in wire harness. Replace harness soon before you have a vehicle fire.

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