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I changed out the starter solenoid and now when i try to connect the neg. cable to the battery the truck tries to start. what could this be/

I have a 93 F-350 and after I changed the starter solenoid and try to connect the neg. battery cable the truck tries to start with the key out of the ignition. any ideas of what it could be?

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  • Eric Sutton Feb 23, 2012

    The truck starts to crank over. and stops when i disconnect the neg. cable.

  • Eric Sutton Feb 23, 2012

    I just put a new starter and solenoid in about 3 weeks ago and after doin some 4 wheeling it wouldnt start so i popped the hood and noticed that the solenoid was ripped in half due to a battery moving



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Recheck all of your wire connections to both the starter solenoid and to the battery make sure nothing is reverse.

remember starting over is not a bad thing, it just mean that your doing it right.

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  • Eric Sutton Feb 23, 2012

    thanks for the input! if anything was reverse could it mess up anything else?



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