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Fuel pump testing

What's the best way to test the fuel pump? it's out of the truck. and it's new. I put it in and still no pressure to the lines so i droped the tank again and tested the harness and have power to the pump. could it be the new pump?

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When you turn the switch, listen for a whirring sound . That is your fuel pump working. check the fuses too. It could be the pump. But until you hear the sound it will not work.

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TESTING Fig. 1: Connect the fuel pressure gauge C4799B or equivalent to the fuel rail service valve - 3.3L shown 88175g09.gif
Fig. 2: Checking the fuel pressure with a gauge - 3.5L shown 88175g10.gif
Fig. 3: Checking the pressure between the pump and the filter 88175g11.gif
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