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Bogs down when step on pedal high speeds

1997 lesabre, had MAF, MAP O2 changed. Today they repalced the PCM computer, kick it down at 10-20-30 mph responds great, kick it down at 40-50mph and it still bogs down. is my car 3.8 moter suppose to be this way???

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Its the fuel pump...........it will go completely out soon therefore your car will not start......replace it and you engine will not bog down.........you might also need a tune up.....if you havent had one in the past couple of years then you need it........

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as always check all fuses. and scan the ECU for DTCs. first.
there is no need to fix OBD2 cars like 1980 cars (hard rows to hoe)
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lets fix the easy one first. idle. (and hope for moving issues to fix for free) it idle car is parked, so is 100% safe tests. (not moving)

so it surges at idle.
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1: hot or cold or both.?
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first off, idle is the last thing to work right on any engine.

there are many ways to find what is wrong.
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2: i find fuel pressure at 15PSI , hopeless low .
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not knowing what engine you have or the idle hot surge range,
i can not go farther.

the driving bog tells me,
1: scan the ecu ,get DTCs; do that first.
2: clean MAF if car has one, ask how..
3: check fuel pressure.


my guess is engine is lean. and starving for fuel all the time.
cept WOT.

MAF cars starve for fuel if there are any vacuum leaks.
MAP cars do opposite, they race fast with 100% full power.
MAF is air density EFI
MAP is speed density EFI.
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