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1991 1.5litre 4-door

I get in the car battery has full charge and starter is tested to max performance. Problem: the car doesn't even attempt to crank could it be the main power relay as well??

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  • allodemcars Oct 24, 2008

    there is no clicks from the engine. there is a small ping coming from under the dash? the solenoid is taking full voltage. Could this be a similar Main Power Relay issue?

  • allodemcars Oct 26, 2008

    When I took the starter in to have it tested the auto parts store told me the solenoid was applying 103 amps of 120 amp regulated. Is this a confusion on their part or could there still be a problem with the solenoid giving a false reading?

  • allodemcars Oct 28, 2008

    The solenoid was still connected to the starter and the starter was not run for more than 5 seconds out of the car other than the load test at the parts store. When the key is turned to the start position there is an audible click noise coming from the exact left side of the dash ( the door area.) I got under the dash and put my finger on this little black box that reads " MAIN RELAY ASSY," this box was clicking, good or bad?? :)

  • allodemcars Oct 30, 2008

    No, there were no noises coming from the " Main Relay ' Assembly' " box at all, this is the first!?!

  • allodemcars Nov 05, 2008

    I appreciate all the help we have decided to allow the dealership to ravage their minds for this one. Thank you for the points maybe I can use those in the future!

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When you turn the key to crank the engine can you hear a click each time you turn the key. If you can hear it that is your starter solenoid. It is suppose to connect the battery to the starter motor. speak pf coincidence I had that exact same problem with my 94 F150 today. On the way home I stopped and bought a new starter, (which by the way comes with a new solenoid already attached to the starter motor). If you can hear the click I'd say your starter is bad. If there is no click, Your solenoid is not working. The problem could be no voltage is getting to the solenoid, or the solenoid is bad. No voltage getting to the solenoid can be checked by putting a voltmeter on the smaller wire going to the solenoid and turning the key. You can make a substitute voltmeter by buying a 12 volt car light and a socket to match connect 2 wires to the socket and you have a voltage indicator, put one wire on the smaller wire on the solenoid and the other wire to the engine metal (the ground wire). turn the key and see if the light come on. If it doesn't the solenoid/starter is bad.

Hope this helps

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    Loringh Oct 24, 2008

    I'm not familiar with the term "Main Power Relay"

    This is a puzzlement. If there is full voltage ( 12 to 13 volts) on the solenoid, the solenoid relay should close and apply battery voltage to the starter. I would have to say the solenoid is not working properly.

    Auto parts stores sell a device that has a push button switch that allows you to directly jump the solenoid to double check it.

    Loringh


    Loringh


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    Loringh Oct 26, 2008

    when you took the solenoid in to have it tested at the auto parts store, was it still connected to the starter or had you removed it from the starter? If was not connected to the starter, 103 amps is too much current for the solenoid by itself to draw. If it was connected to the starter, did the starter turn run as it is supposed to. By THE WAY, never run a starter for more than 5 seconds when it is out of the car.
    DC motors like a starter will self destruct when they are run with no load for any long period of time.

    Loringh


  • Loringh
    Loringh Oct 28, 2008

    I wish I could be there with my voltmeter and make a few measurements. Have you ever heard this clicking from the "main relay ***'y" box before this problem came up???

    Loringh


  • Loringh
    Loringh Oct 30, 2008

    That being said I would concentrate on the main relay assembly. I have heard of some cars having essentially 2 starter solenoids. If it were me I would get a quote from an auto parts store and consider replacing it.

    If you know someone that has a voltmeter and knows how to use it, you could confirm your suspicions


    Good luck Loringh


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