Question about 2004 Renault 181

6 Answers

Renault Clio Sport 182 Air Con and fan blower fault

2004 reg Renault Clio Sport 2004 - Everything working fine until I stopped engine for about half hour on return found no demist or air con working. all front panel lights/systems operational and illuminated on the air con panel e.g. temp, fan intesity just no actual fan/demist/air movement. Checked all fuses marked with a fan symbol in passenger side fuse box - all ok and so are all underbonnet fuses. Guess its a fuse/relay/supply problem to the fan but can't find fault. Any advice appreciated please. Thank you, from Ian

Posted by on

  • 2 more comments 
  • manton Nov 01, 2008

    I have a 2003 Clio 172 with exactly the same problem. I am going to investigate this later today and if I find anything I will post again. One thing I have noticed is that there is a humming type noise which is there whenever the ignition is on (engine started or not) and it seems to be located behind the front interior light binnacle. Looking at the manual it seems there is a fan and inside temp sensor there. I will pull the assy and have a look.

  • t2omy Jan 06, 2009

    I have 53 plate clio with climate control. Heater fan not working at any speeds at all. Checked fuses, checked motor, all ok. Would be greatful for any info on this matter.

  • 3star Feb 25, 2009

    It turned out to be the power control module - given these problems its likely to be either this power control module or the climate control computer. Some models have the resistor pack - this is in the fan housing but the power control module is in the air flow pipework between fan and cabin, after the filter. Its worth checking its faulty before buying as it cost £94 quid! All working fine now its replaced. Here's the fault find sequence:



    check all fuses



    ignition on is there 12v on track 4 of the power control module and on track 1of the blower motor?



    yes go to *



    no then check for 12v before ignition on track 30, an earth on track 85 and 12v after ignition on track 86 of cold air blower relay (yellow relay on an individual holder in engine compartment fuse box) - repair as necessary



    check insulation, continuity and absencce of interference resistance on cold air delivery relay track 87 to track 4 of the power control module and and track 1 of the blower motor



    if still no 12v supply on track 4 of the power module and track 1 of the blower motor - replace cold air delivery relay



    *

    check for earth on pin5 of power module (the pins are numbered 1-5) - repair if necessary



    check insulation, continuity and absence of interfernce resistance of connection between track1 and track 2 of the blower motor - repair if necessary



    disconnect the connector from the power control module and with ignition on shunt (short together) tracks1 and 5 - the fan should run at full speed - if not the fan is faulty



    check the voltage between earth and track2 of the unit (with power module connected - this is tricky as there is a lot of insulation) it should vary as follows

    speed 0 13.94v

    speed 1 11.36v

    speed 2 10.17v

    speed 3 8.93v

    speed 4 7.69v

    speed 5 6.34v

    speed 6 5.13v

    speed 7 3.8v

    speed 8 0.14v



    if it does vary correctly (approx voltages) replace the power module - if not its the climate control computer









  • Burnz0 Mar 06, 2009

    "As for the noise from the binnacle, inside there..." - what kind of hot glue melt would you use?? and where do you put it? i find it seems to get louder as the clips on the unit touch the base on the roof so would you just stick it everywhere?
    do you think getting a new motor will stop the noise? renault want £20ish but if its still gonna be noisy theres not much point?

×

6 Answers

  • Level 1:

    An expert who has achieved level 1.

    Corporal:

    An expert that has over 10 points.

    Mayor:

    An expert whose answer got voted for 2 times.

  • Contributor
  • 5 Answers

I also have a 53 clio with climate control and the fan stopped working. After being quoted £104 by dealership I decided to have a go myself. Bonnet up, remove driverside scuttle cover. Unplug fan resistor 7701051272 (large plug with black wire to fan)remove securing screws and resistor. Dismantled casing and peeled away gel from soldered side of circuit board around mosfet transistor-desolder and remove. Mine was a N342AD 75344G but the nearest I could get was HUF75337P3 from Maplin £1.68. This was the wrong 'package size' but I managed.Close the clamp slightly (before)to hold transistor firmly and then insert transistor and solder. Reassemble. After I got an email from a scrappy QUOTING £20 if you don't fancy the messing about.

Renault Clio Sport 182 Air Con and fan blower faul - image_icon_name.gifIan

Posted on Aug 31, 2009

  • Level 1:

    An expert who has achieved level 1.

    Mayor:

    An expert whose answer got voted for 2 times.

  • Contributor
  • 1 Answer

My son had the same problem with this so called resisor pack to control motor speed.
The sticky gue inside is silicon to keep out dampness and the device that blows is a N Type Mosfet.
I was unable to get the device number from his as it had a hole burnt out of it
I did a little searching and ended up replacing it with a IRFPS37N50APBF from RS components this is a 500v 36 Amp N channel Mosfet device and it seems to be working fine.
These devices are highly static sensitive so care has to be taken.
This is not a job for amatuers but at £10 including vat its a cheap fix Vidor

Posted on Apr 05, 2009

  • Level 1:

    An expert who has achieved level 1.

    Mayor:

    An expert whose answer got voted for 2 times.

  • Contributor
  • 2 Answers

Hi alicantecoli, thanks for replying, but today I had some time and attacked the problem again. I pulled the air blower (not too difficult - remove cover panel over the wiper area lh side looking from front, diswconnect wiring connectors and four screws). Two more screws allow separation of the motor from it's housing.

I found the problem was worn down carbon brushes. A visit to a local washing machine repairers got me a new pair of suitable brushes - cost £3.50, much better than Renault's price for a new blower assembly at £231.70. Spare brushes are not available frrom Renault.

As for the noise from the binnacle, inside there is a small motor which draws cabin air over a sensor located in its throat. Renault say 'they all do that mate' and expect to change the motor every 40,000 miles or two years! Hmmm most of the noise is due to resonance of the plastics where the motor is fitted. Some hot melt glue has fixed the problem. TBH the whole method of mounting is rubbish - it's certain to have this noise problem.

Hope this helps.

Posted on Nov 16, 2008

  • manton Nov 18, 2008

    Just for the record, I am, by profession an electronics engineer, and yes I had also looked at that fan speed module.



    I can tell you the reason its so complex is because we have climate control and not just ordinary a/c.



    The fan speed actually has many levels, and its all controlled by, I think, a small microprocessor feeding what is probably a high current FET. The motor is fed from a 'chopper' circuit - I know this because I took my trusty oscilloscope to the problem.



    That sensor behind the interior lamp binnacle is also fed to the main control unit, which also powers the various air flow direction and hot/cold motors.



    If you find from Renault that it is indeed faulty, I may be able to help (depends obviously on the replacement cost from Renault as to whether or not this would be worthwhile).

×

  • Level 1:

    An expert who has achieved level 1.

    Mayor:

    An expert whose answer got voted for 2 times.

  • Contributor
  • 1 Answer

Hi, we had the same problem about a year ago with the climate control on our 2002 172, unfortunately our local garage couldn't find the fault as the fan motor worked ok but none of the controls did, our renault dealer found that the heater resistor pack had failed, £86 +vat for the part and £80 +vat to fit it. Can't tell you where the part is but it may have some serviceable parts on it when you do find it, part no; R7701051272. Mike

Posted on Feb 20, 2009

  • Level 1:

    An expert who has achieved level 1.

  • Contributor
  • 1 Answer

Thanks guys for assisting. I've found the variable device that regulates the fan motor - having eliminated a faulty fan blower motor. The sequence is from the LHS the fan sucks in cold air passes through air filter and next this device sits in the air passage with a large aluminium heat sink on it which is cooled by the air passing over it. at first it looks like a 5/6 way connector bolted to the air passage but it's actually inserted into the airway. I expected this to be a resistive winding - each winding giving a different voltage and therefore different fan speed - however its a semiconductor device bolted to the heatsink sitting in a white jelly substance and surrounded by a plastic housing. It must be a power transistor or triac to alter the voltage to the fan. I've just dropped it into Renault (cheekily) to say can they check if it's faulty as there is no indication from the pins what the connections are. They will let me know or give me a wiring diagram/fault diagnostic - so fingers crossed and I'll let youi know!

Posted on Nov 18, 2008

  • Level 3:

    An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

    Superstar:

    An expert that got 20 achievements.

    All-Star:

    An expert that got 10 achievements.

    MVP:

    An expert that got 5 achievements.

  • Renault Master
  • 22,041 Answers

Check gas in a/c system

Posted on Nov 15, 2008

  • Colin Stickland
    Colin Stickland Feb 28, 2009

    i do like the comment of changing the brushes,i do this on altenators where i buy brushes from the bosch agent for about 4€ .Well this problem seems to have been resolved but what a cost.Well i have come to expect this of renault but all the new cars are getting to be the same ranging from encrypted software ,to multi layered circuit boards which inhibit the chance of repairing.The dealers dont want you doing it yourself ,and the manufacturers dont want you to either as the way its going with internet connection from dealers to manufacturers ,then using bar codes on the spares packets before the immobiliser system is released so only genuine parts are fitted ,at dealer prices ?? then i can see a big rise in collectable classics that had no fancy electronics.Anyway best of brtitish from spain to all who contributed here

×

1 Suggested Answer

6ya6ya
  • 2 Answers

SOURCE: I have freestanding Series 8 dishwasher. Lately during the filling cycle water hammer is occurring. How can this be resolved

Hi,
a 6ya expert can help you resolve that issue over the phone in a minute or two.
best thing about this new service is that you are never placed on hold and get to talk to real repairmen in the US.
the service is completely free and covers almost anything you can think of (from cars to computers, handyman, and even drones).
click here to download the app (for users in the US for now) and get all the help you need.
goodluck!

Posted on Jan 02, 2017

Add Your Answer

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

2 Answers

L reg, petrol, 3 door renault clio. n it squeals like a pig.


That is your trust bearing in your clutch assembly, its a cheap part but involves basically a clutch change to sort out, you can either live with it till the clutch fails or depending on how long its been since it was last changed, bite the bullet and get a whole new clutch fitted.

Mar 24, 2010 | 1986 Renault Sport

1 Answer

Renault Clio Air Con Fan Problem - Wont turn off


Find Someone else,
Have Them Replace The Fan Selector Switch,
There Is Only 1 Fan In The System, Since You Can Select Between Defrost, Dash, Floor,
But Cannot Control Fan Speed/Shut-Off Fan.
I Would Replace The " Fan Selector Switch" Installed In Your Heater-A/C Controller Unit
Mounted In Your Dash.
Take Care God Bless

Jul 02, 2009 | 2000 Renault 181

1 Answer

2004 reg Renault Clio Dynamique. Air con not working fans come on but only blows hot air out? just started all of a sudden. Any idea what this might be please? Thank you Maria


have you tried recharging your ac? you can buy freon from an auto parts store and have a mechanic put some freon in the air compressor

Jul 01, 2009 | 2004 Renault 181

1 Answer

I have a renault clio 1.4 R reg it misfires


misfire could happen if you have a leak in the intake or exhause valve , or if your engine running rich thats mean too much fuel coming to the engine . you should check oxygen sensor

May 31, 2009 | 2005 Renault 181

1 Answer

Can not fine the brake fluid resivoir


try these two websites to see if they have your car listed its www.autozone.com and the other one is www.alladtadiy.com

May 25, 2009 | 2004 Renault 181

1 Answer

My blower only works on setting 123 + air con not that cold


You have a resistor array assembly going out. What you described is typical of the first resistor going out and over loading the second, which goes out and overloads the third. Replace the HVAC resistor array. Don't buy a used one. Spend the extra money on the new OEM dealer item. Good luck to you.

Apr 20, 2009 | 2000 Jeep Cherokee

1 Answer

Engine managementlight stays on my clio sport 182,reg 2004


The light is telling you that it knows of a fault somewhere, unfortunately the only way to find out where the fault is, is to plug the car into a diagnostics machine.

Mar 17, 2009 | 2005 Renault 181

Not finding what you are looking for?

Open Questions:

See all 2004 Renault 181 Questions

Cars & Trucks Logo

14,295 people viewed this question

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Renault Experts

Colin Stickland
Colin Stickland

Level 3 Expert

22041 Answers

xxxxxx xxx

Level 3 Expert

4807 Answers

yadayada
yadayada

Level 3 Expert

70347 Answers

Are you a Renault Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...