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Engine start-stop push button not working

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I have vitz 2006, the I'LL version with an engine start-stop push button. When u press the brake pedal, a green light comes ON in the button and on pressing the button now, u provide the ignition. For few days it was taking slightly longer, 5-6 seconds, for starting but today the eng did not start at all. The green light still comes ON although with a much harder brake pedal press but the ignition is not provided. I have a new battery and the mileage is around 40,000 km. Pl help.

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  • Naveed Riaz Oct 09, 2008

    The spark plugs are clean and in good condition

  • Naveed Riaz Oct 09, 2008

    What is a TSB? and how to go about removing this

  • Naveed Riaz Oct 09, 2008

    Nothing happens. The trp meter is not changing to dashes. The brake lever has become hard to prevent a start. When I press it harder, the green light in the start-stop button lights up but the ignition does not engage.

  • Naveed Riaz Oct 09, 2008

    I ll have the starter checked first. The brake pedal under normal conditions does move fore and aft. A small gentle press infact turns the green light ON in the eng start stop button.

  • Naveed Riaz Oct 09, 2008

    Thanx for the advice but allow me to say thats not the solution. When all suggested solutions here would fail, I ll obviously take it to the local dealer. I didn t take it to a local dealer straight away since these cars r new here in Pakistan and people r not really gend up on resolving computer related automobile issues.

  • Naveed Riaz Oct 13, 2008

    Hello everyone. I m back after 2-3 dz. The local dealer found out that the engine computer software had been disturbed by the inconsistent battery power supply. The original battery was replaced by a local electrician and had literally hammered the terminals and pulled the wires from their housing/connection to engine control. So the computer programme was re-run or reloaded and did not need a new code. But even this was costly. I now have a new maintenance free batt and my vitz is starting up fine. I wonder why were u experts not zeroing on engine control problem.

  • Naveed Riaz Oct 14, 2008

    Ok jimmy, I didn t mean to offend u. Sorry anyway and I really respect whatever help u and others r offering. Thanx a lot to everyone who offered solutions. I m closing this topic now.

  • Naveed Riaz Oct 14, 2008

    No but I ll buy jimmy's point that unless the car or the problem is actually seen, its difficult to come to the right solution. I may not have found the solution so many others would have. My own dealer did not give me an instant solution even after having a good look the prob. But I liked the promptness of the solutions offered. They just kept pouring in. Thanx

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The brake pedal being harder just means that you have added pressure into the brake lines from the amount of pumping that you have done in trying to get this started.

If it was taking longer to start beforehand then it sounds like your starter is having a problem and will need to replaced or possibly you don't have 12 V running to it which you can check. I'm betting the starter went bad and so if you have experience with cars, I'm sure you could handle replacing it, make sure you disconnect the battery when working on the car, otherwise you may just need to have a mechanic do it for you. See if Toyota will give you any kind of deal.


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    Benjamin Patri Oct 09, 2008

    It also could be the starter relay, which is considerably cheaper than the starter. I suggest that you buy a Haynes manual or a Chilton or similar car manual that gives you diagrams and the "how to do things" if you plan on working on your own car a lot.

  • Benjamin Patri
    Benjamin Patri Oct 13, 2008

    a car that old wouldn't typically have a battery go bad that fast, I'm glad you fixed it. Have a good day

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The vehicle should still be under warranty. Either way it is your best bet to take the vehicle to your local dealer. They will be able to diagnose your problem properly. With newer technologies like push button start their are only more issues that can arise. If you need help locating your nearest dealership I would be glad to assist you further. If you have a moment please accept and rate my solution accordingly.
Thanks,
Lee

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    Lee A. Oct 13, 2008

    Like i said you needed to take it to a the dealer and they would easily take care of it. If you would have mentioned you had a battery replaced by someone obviously not reliable enough to do so that would have helped zero in on the problem. It is hard enough to diagnose problems when your working on the car and that much harder when your going off a few sentences. I would hope you would reconsider your rating of my solution as you followed my recommendation.
    Thanks,
    Lee


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Before turning the car on press and hold the trip meter button. Continue pressing it while you put your foot on the brake and hit the power button. Once the power is on, the odometer will show five dashes instead of numbers. Continue to press the trip meter until all the dashes go away.

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    mohammed marika thambi Oct 09, 2008

    echnical Service Bulletins from Chrysler assist service departments with common
    or difficult problems. A TSB may contain updated part numbers and repair
    procedures and does not imply an extended warranty for a problem.



    Individual TSB copies will be provided by your dealer's service department
    on request. Be reasonable here - copies of a few bulletens are not difficult
    to obtain from most dealerships, but they will balk at requests for too many
    at one time. At the end of each year, Chrysler publishes the entire TSB set,
    whch can be ordered thrpough the parts department.


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    mohammed marika thambi Oct 09, 2008

    There is a ground on the BLACK/BLUE hood pin wire OR the brake wire
    BLUE/BLACK is connected to the wrong side of the brake switch.

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Q: With the black wire not connected, the green LED "just lights up" as described in the instructions, when the LED is not directly under one of the four holes. It stays on until it is visible through one of the holes. Is this a problem? Does it matter which hole the green light shows through?

A: This is perfectly normal, when the LED just lights up is the timing point and the corresponding cylinder should (with the 123 Mercedes distributors)
be on 0° TDC the LED doesn't have to be in the middle of a hole, it is often only partly visable.

Q: I almost got it to start however the wire nut on the side of the 123 hit the valve cover. The housing could not be turned further. I disassembled the drive gear but found only one hole for the retaining pin and so could not alter its position.

A: You can put the distributor in four positions without changing the drive dog position, so if the "wire nut" is peeking into an unsuitable direction you just turn the 123 distributor 90 degrees or 180 degrees.

Just keep in mind that the HT wires should be correctly wired, check which cylinder is no 1 (the rotor should point to that HT lead) and that the firing order should be 1-3-4-2 and when the rotor turns clockwise. This means that cyl 1 HT lead (and of coarse the others as well) can be in a different position (rotated) as they where with the original distributor.

I hope this helps!

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THERE IS A TSB ON CLOGED FUEL INJECTORS

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    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    ANY CHECK ENGINE LIGHTS ON?

  • Jimmy
    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    ALSO IVE SEEN ALOT OF CARS AT THE SHOP DUE TO " BAD GAS" THE OCTANE IS VERY LOW ON THESE CARS CAUSING "NO STARTS" AND " HARD STARTS"

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    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLITIN TSB THIS IS INFO GIVIN BY THE DEALER KINDA LIKE A RECALL. BUT FOR OTHER TECHS

  • Jimmy
    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    LOOK AT THIS FEED........The engine will intermittently misfire on all 4 cylinders. A vacuum gauge will bounce wildly when this happens. When it idles ok the vacuum gauge is steady ** Confirmed Fix **
    The fuel tank was half full of water.

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    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    I JUST READ A FEED ON THIS CARS STARTER. ITS BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE CASE SWELLING DUE TO HEAT. AND CONTACT ISSUES.........

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    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    THERE IS NO VACUUM TO THE BRAKE. THATS THE HARD PEDAL. IF YOU CAN GET TO THE STARTER THER IS INE SMALL WIRE AND A BIGGER ONE. GET A WIRE WITH ALIGATOR CLIPS PUT ONE ON THE BIG CONECTOR AND JUST TOUCH THE OTHER END TO THE SMALL ONE. THE ENGINE SHOULD CRANK OVER. IF NOT U NEED A STARTER. IF IT DOES IT COULD BE THE STARTER RELAY BAD. I HAVE THE WIRE DIAG TO TROUBLE SHOOT THIS.

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    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    THE DASHES ARE FOR THE OIL CHANGE REMINDER RESET............

  • Jimmy
    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN NEUTRAL IF ITS A STICK. AND TURN THE IGNITION OFF...... YOU CAN BYPASS THE STARTER RELAY ALSO. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU NEED HELP WITH

  • Jimmy
    Jimmy Oct 09, 2008

    the engine provides the "vacuum" for the power asist for the brakes. the booster stores vacuum for two to three brake presses. at this time it looses vacuum and the pedal gets stiff. harder to press. after the engine starts the vacuum will bring the pedal back to the easy no effort depress. good luck jimmy........

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    Jimmy Oct 13, 2008

    well "us" experts do this in our free time as a helpfull tool to you the common "tech" or "do it yourself" people. i didnt look at this car in person...... and didnt know the battery was replaced.... most good shops charge from 60-120 dollars an hour for our time just looking at your car. you asked for a 6 dollar fix what did you expect without even getting to see the car......... we just can give input about what we have seen or heard of. also i gave you tsb's on your car this cost me money every month to use..... would you do your job for free?????? well its good to hear its fixed. just be alittle understanding to what we have to work with....... jimmy

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    Jimmy Oct 14, 2008

    thank you for the reply..... it feels good to know ur appreciated for ur skills......... if you have anyother problems feel free to ask in the future........ jimmy

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Please check the spark plug. There might be too much carbon present on it so you need to clean it. If cleaning wont fix it, try replacing it. If you can't do it, just bring it to the nearest auto mechanic.

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