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Check engine light flashing on 2002 X-Type

The check engine light on my 2002 X-type started flashing as the car ran very hesitantly, like it was misfiring. The dealership tested it and said cylinder No. 4 was misfiring and the problem was the fuel injector. They did some preliminary things like cleaning the injectors but those didn't work so they have to replace the injector itself. And they said you can't replace only one fuel injector, you have to replace all of the fuel injectors since its one piece. The cost for the job is $1,925. Does this seem right? Are there any questions I should be asking? Thanks.

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  • pjleddy Oct 08, 2008

    Is there a list of other steps I should confirm the dealer checked before concluding I need to replace the fuel injectors? Is it true that the fuel injectors are all one piece and therefore you have to replace all the fuel injectors if you need to replace one fuel injector? If I need to replace the fuel injectors, how much should the part cost generally and what would be reasonable for labor? Any chance replacing the fuel injectors doesn't solve the problem?

  • pjleddy Oct 08, 2008

    Please provide answers to the other posted questions. Thanks.

  • pjleddy Oct 08, 2008

    I talked to another jaguar dealer and he said the injectors were all part of one piece and therefore couldn't be separately replaced. Who is right?

  • pjleddy Oct 08, 2008

    I talked to the dealer again and here are the specifics. The code that came up when they tested the car was P0304. He said they then put in a new coil pack and spark plug for cylinder No. 4 but it still misfired. They then checked the fuel pressure but that was good. They then cleaned out the fuel injectors, but it still misfired. They said the computer showed the coil pack and spark plug were sending the signal to the injector and sparking and that there was fuel pressure to the motor but that the injector was not pulsing and nothing was getting into the cylinder except some leakage. He said this was the second time they've seen something like this in 4 years. He said usually it's a coil pack or dirty injectors. Does this seem like a thorough review and do the conclusions make sense? Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

  • pjleddy Oct 08, 2008

    Please see latest post. It seems like the last response was to the immediately prior post. Thanks.

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Have a look at link below; There some usefull information about car service and checks.
http://www.2carpros.com/dia/how_to_scan_trouble_codes.htm

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Hi, I assume that the dealer checked the CEL (Check Engine Light) for proper code and concluded that its the fuel injector which is faulty.
It might be true that you need to buy it as a set. So, one way to fit to your budget would be to go to a local mechanic and get a injector from a used car/ salvage.
This would be much cheaper and efficient.
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You could also try searching online for this used part in case your mechanic cant find one.
But I am sure, you can find a used injector.

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Hi,

yes, you have to change the full fuel injector piece......
According to me the authorized dealer will do the best for the money you spent.....
They will care for us than any one else....
I thing you can afford it....

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It does sound a bit on the higher side, but then dealerships usually are. The good thing about it is that they will replace with brand new and genuine parts, often giving a warranty for the part replaced. You can also get them to give you a written guarantee that this will fix the problem. However, they will have to replace all four injectors as they say, because the genuine replacement comes as a full set.
You can get it replaced individually by a local mechanic, probably, but then you can be sure that the part will definitely be second hand, and there is no guarantee/warranty.
You will have to decide between going in for a genuine (more expensive) replacement which should last you for a while,, or going in for a second hand spare which may be cheaper, but may fail at any time.
If you wish, you can buy quality spares from this site:
http://www.automotix.net/partshotline-jaguar-x_type-fuel_injection_pump-requests.html
You will have to contact them directly for a quote, as prices are not mentioned on the website. As for the cost of labor, different shops have different rates, so you will have to make a couple of enquiries to get an average price. Once you have this info, you can contact a reliable mechanic and bargain for repair costs.

As to whether replacing the injectors will resolve the problem, well...its impossible to say without doing a manual inspection and testing. I'm sure the dealership know what they are talking about, as they would no doubt have made the required inspections and testing..

Hope that helps!

Cheers!
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Use the below link ..u ll get an idea for costs of parts

www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2002-jaguar-x_type-inventory.html - 133k -

.no idea abt labour charge...it may be reasonable

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    mohammed marika thambi Oct 08, 2008

    it may cost $25.95

    check this link
    http://scour.com/view/result/cost%20of%2...



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I called around for you and t seems no one outside of the dealer sells injectors for your car, they are very expensive, the price you were quoted is in the ball park. you should ask the following

1. what is the labor time to install these parts, have them show you, they have a factory labor guide for all repair operations like this.
2. What is the the exact cost of the parts and what these parts are, make them give a written estimate with all this info.
3. call around with the above info in hand and try and beat there price on the repair, but be warned that if a shop does the work that someone else diagnosed they will not guarantee the repair.

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    yadayada Oct 08, 2008

    The injectors are not sold except as a unit part, that is correct, got same answer from local dealer here, as far as a check list goes before verify the car needs injectors the best way is to read the technician's notes and ask as many questions as you think you need to, there is no stupid question, ask what tests he dide to conclude the injector is bad is the most important of all.

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    yadayada Oct 08, 2008

    Also call at least 3 dealers for a quote on the work and parts, try to get them to give you a preferred customer discount on the parts, they mark them up at least 75% from the book price in most dealers, ask for better price, be firm but nice about the discount, they will most likely give you a lower price on the parts needed. I worked in dealership's 30 years, I am well aware of the mark up on parts, we marked up 100% of wholesale.

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    yadayada Oct 08, 2008

    I have 30 years of electronic related work at all kinds of new car dealers, it sounds like the dealer s doing the correct steps to get to the root of the problem, one note make sure that if by chance the injector does not cure the miss will they do what it takes to fix it at no cost to you, we always stood behind our diagnosis, if we screwed up we fixed it even if it cost big bucks, only dealers can do this, independents just don't have that kind of money to provide a fix it free policy for failed repairs.

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1 Dealer are expensive shops.
2 The Manufacture recommends that they replace all to provide you with the proper waranty.
3 You could send it to an Import repair shop that is not a dealer but there is no garantee they won't recommend changing them all.
4 Also you can ask the dealer what kind of garantees are they offering.
5 Verify everthing that there doing and price compare It does seem high.

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Just 1 fuel ther e all seprate injectors find one thats bad install new one not all of them ok ther about 200to 300 eash

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    nick helpap Oct 08, 2008

    yes hes right ther all one on your jag model injecters sad to say are all as one group dumd desighn

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    nick helpap Oct 08, 2008

    dealer is right on this model just looked ebay sells parts also

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If you can find another local guy that you can trust with your jaguar, then go ahead and bring it to him. you can just replace one injector and that would definitely be cheaper.

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I think you can do this a bit cheaper. cost is too high i feel.

consult with another shop also

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