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Putting on brake drums

I changed brake shoes how can i get the brake drums back on

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  • jmhiggins66 Oct 07, 2008

    They are backed off as far as the will go. as a matter of fact the brake shoe are as far in as they can possibly go.

  • TraderGordo Jan 03, 2009

    I'm stuck on this myself. Can't seem to move them in far enough to get the drum back on... not much help so far on the internet, if you figured it out, please describe in detail!

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It took a little while but I figured it out. Since I had never done the job before, I didn't realize you have to muscle it on a little. As countrycurt0 mentioned, first you want to push on the adjuster (you can do this from the front if you have the drum off, or from the tiny access hole in the back (after removing little rubber plug) using a screw driver. Then you can put the drum over the brake pads, one side at a time if necessary, while pushing hard to get it over the other side. I also had to use a rubber mallet and a little pounding to get it on. It may or may not help to push back on the adjuster lever (from the access port behind the brakes as mentioned above) WHILE muscling the drum back on - this is what I did, but I have no idea if holding down the adjuster lever was helping. I'll probably never buy another car with drum brakes, but the good news is that these ones lasted for 162,000 miles! :)

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Make sure u backed off on the adjusters all the way, the drums should fit if u do. countrycurt0

Posted on Oct 07, 2008

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SOURCE: remove stuck brake drum

you have to get a brake adjusting tool and a screw driver....

put the brake tool in and locate the adjuster wheel, use a screwdriver to release the locking prawl, its tuff but doable.

If there are no access openings to the adjuster, either in the drum or backing plate, then you need to work it off with a few pry bars

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